"Richard J." wrote in message
Martin Underwood wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote in
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Richard J. wrote:

I was recently told, by a friend who ought to know, that both
pushed bicycles and shopping trolleys, and prams, and anything
similar, are strictly not legal on the footway. BHCBW.

What planet are these law-makers on?

Tom's a law maker??

Tom: your friend "who ought to know" -- get him to quote chapter and
verse in the law that says that it's illegal to push a pram on the
footway. If he can't, then his statement is not credible.
--

I think it is in Section 72 of the Highways Act of 1835. That is the law
that makes it illegal to cycle on the pavement and I think it extends to all
wheeled vehicles. Unfortunately, I can't find it online.

Ian

Ian wrote:
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Martin Underwood wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote in
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Richard J. wrote:

I was recently told, by a friend who ought to know, that both
pushed bicycles and shopping trolleys, and prams, and anything
similar, are strictly not legal on the footway. BHCBW.

What planet are these law-makers on?

Tom's a law maker??

Tom: your friend "who ought to know" -- get him to quote chapter and
verse in the law that says that it's illegal to push a pram on the
footway. If he can't, then his statement is not credible.
--


I think it is in Section 72 of the Highways Act of 1835. That is the law
that makes it illegal to cycle on the pavement and I think it extends to all
wheeled vehicles. Unfortunately, I can't find it online.

http://www.lesberries.co.uk/cycling/misc/misc.html

has an appropriate discussion.

Nick Finnigan wrote:
Ian wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message

Martin Underwood wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote in
:


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Richard J. wrote:

I was recently told, by a friend who ought to know, that both
pushed bicycles and shopping trolleys, and prams, and anything
similar, are strictly not legal on the footway. BHCBW.

What planet are these law-makers on?

Tom's a law maker??

Tom: your friend "who ought to know" -- get him to quote chapter
and verse in the law that says that it's illegal to push a pram
on the footway. If he can't, then his statement is not credible.
--


I think it is in Section 72 of the Highways Act of 1835. That is
the law that makes it illegal to cycle on the pavement and I think
it extends to all wheeled vehicles. Unfortunately, I can't find it
online.

http://www.lesberries.co.uk/cycling/misc/misc.html

has an appropriate discussion.

It does indeed, and concludes that a person pushing a bike, on a
pedestrian crossing anyway, is a pedestrian. "a person who is walking
across a pedestrian crossing pushing a bicycle, having started on the
pavement on one side on her feet and not on the bicycle, and going
across pushing the bicycle with both feet on the ground so to speak is
clearly a 'foot passenger'."
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message Nick Finnigan wrote:
Ian wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message

Martin Underwood wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote in
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Richard J. wrote:

I was recently told, by a friend who ought to know, that both
pushed bicycles and shopping trolleys, and prams, and anything
similar, are strictly not legal on the footway. BHCBW.

What planet are these law-makers on?

Tom's a law maker??

Tom: your friend "who ought to know" -- get him to quote chapter
and verse in the law that says that it's illegal to push a pram
on the footway. If he can't, then his statement is not credible.
--


I think it is in Section 72 of the Highways Act of 1835. That is
the law that makes it illegal to cycle on the pavement and I think
it extends to all wheeled vehicles. Unfortunately, I can't find it
online.

http://www.lesberries.co.uk/cycling/misc/misc.html

has an appropriate discussion.

It does indeed, and concludes that a person pushing a bike, on a
pedestrian crossing anyway, is a pedestrian. "a person who is walking
across a pedestrian crossing pushing a bicycle, having started on the
pavement on one side on her feet and not on the bicycle, and going
across pushing the bicycle with both feet on the ground so to speak is
clearly a 'foot passenger'."
--

Thanks Nick for the link. So if a cyclist rides across a pedestrian crossing
can I legally knock him/her over?

Ian

Ian wrote:

Thanks Nick for the link. So if a cyclist rides across a pedestrian crossing
can I legally knock him/her over?

If you are a pedestrian, possibly.

"Ian" wrote...

"Richard J." wrote in message Nick Finnigan wrote:

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http://www.lesberries.co.uk/cycling/misc/misc.html
has an appropriate discussion.

It does indeed, and concludes that a person pushing a bike, on a
pedestrian crossing anyway, is a pedestrian. "a person who is walking
across a pedestrian crossing pushing a bicycle, having started on the
pavement on one side on her feet and not on the bicycle, and going
across pushing the bicycle with both feet on the ground so to speak is
clearly a 'foot passenger'."

Thanks Nick for the link. So if a cyclist rides across a pedestrian
crossing can I legally knock him/her over?

The old chestnut...

You still have to drive with due consideration for other road-users (even
the ones who, like too many cyclists, have no intention whatever of
complying with any aspect of road traffic law they find inconvenient), and
you have to drive with due care and attention (ie, you have to stop to avoid
a collision if you can). But you are under no obligation to give precedence
to anyone illegally cycling across a *pedestrian crossing*, any more than
you would have to give way to a motor vehicle being driven across the
crossing from footway to footway.