In message , Barry Salter
writes
Logically, they should offer the same fare as Cambridge Station would
sell for a journey heading the other way, i.e. Cambridge to Heathrow

Is it always true that fares from A to B are the same as from B to A?
I've never been sure that the railway system has even such basic logic
built in.

Railcard discounts *should* be available, as they've been available on
through fares *from* National Rail stations to LU Zones for some time.

Every time I've asked, LU ticket offices have told me that NSE Network
Card discounts aren't available - essentially because their ticket
machines don't have the right programming.


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Clive Page

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:06:37 +0000, U n d e r a c h i e v e r
wrote:

On 2/11/05 1:48 am, in article ,
"James Farrar" wrote:

My elderly father makes about two or three journeys per year by public
transport in London.

He does not 'deserve' to pay through the nose.

If he chooses to pay more than he needs to, he does.

No he does not. He's not got a snowball's chance in hell of getting an
Oyster. He'll turn up to the station and buy a ticket.

That is choosing to pay more than he needs to.

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On 11/11/05 9:41 am, in article ,
"James Farrar" wrote:

My elderly father makes about two or three journeys per year by public
transport in London.

He does not 'deserve' to pay through the nose.

If he chooses to pay more than he needs to, he does.

No he does not. He's not got a snowball's chance in hell of getting an
Oyster. He'll turn up to the station and buy a ticket.

That is choosing to pay more than he needs to.

Not if the number of journeys he makes in total per year does not warrant
getting an Oyster (and I doubt it)

Not if when he next makes a TfL journey it doesn't start with an opportunity
to buy an Oyster (eg on a bus)

Not if he simply cannot understand the value/benefit because it has not been
explained to him.

Yes, an incentive discount is great, but single fares should not be set at
punative levels.

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U n d e r a c h i e v e r

U n d e r a c h i e v e r said:

wrote:


That is choosing to pay more than he needs to.

Not if the number of journeys he makes in total per year does not
warrant getting an Oyster (and I doubt it)

Not if when he next makes a TfL journey it doesn't start with an
opportunity to buy an Oyster (eg on a bus)

Not if he simply cannot understand the value/benefit because it has
not been explained to him.

Or if he's just uncomfortable with the whole idea of virtual tickets and
needs the reassurance of paying real money to a real person for a real
ticket that he can actually see and touch and hold.


Yes, an incentive discount is great, but single fares should not be
set at punative levels.

I agree. The current system is unfauirly biased so that people who are
comfortable with electronic gadgets and gizmos can get discounts; but
those who aren't, can't. Fares shouldn't be based on passengers'
personalities!

In article ,
() wrote:

Yes, an incentive discount is great, but single fares should not be
set at punative levels.

I agree. The current system is unfauirly biased so that people who
are comfortable with electronic gadgets and gizmos can get discounts;
but those who aren't, can't. Fares shouldn't be based on passengers'
personalities!

I don't have a problem with that at current discount levels but next
year's are just punitive!

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:19:58 +0000, U n d e r a c h i e v e r
wrote:

Yes, an incentive discount is great, but single fares should not be set at
punative levels.

As I've said before - what I DO like about Ken is that when he does
something, he really does it. Most politicians would waste millions
on publicity and offer a 5% discount for using Oyster. Ken makes it
an absolute no-brainer to use Oyster.

People who make 3 journeys a year will, indeed, take more than a year
to break even. My heart bleeds.

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:12:23 -0000, wrote:

Not if he simply cannot understand the value/benefit because it has
not been explained to him.

So explain it to him. He's your Dad for heaven's sake! Help him out!

Or if he's just uncomfortable with the whole idea of virtual tickets and
needs the reassurance of paying real money to a real person for a real
ticket that he can actually see and touch and hold.

Tough. Perhaps he'd prefer to buy oats and feed the horse
personally?

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:19:58 +0000, U n d e r a c h i e v e r
wrote:

On 11/11/05 9:41 am, in article ,
"James Farrar" wrote:

My elderly father makes about two or three journeys per year by public
transport in London.

He does not 'deserve' to pay through the nose.

If he chooses to pay more than he needs to, he does.

No he does not. He's not got a snowball's chance in hell of getting an
Oyster. He'll turn up to the station and buy a ticket.

That is choosing to pay more than he needs to.

Not if the number of journeys he makes in total per year does not warrant
getting an Oyster (and I doubt it)

Why "per year"? Two journeys total to break even.

Not if when he next makes a TfL journey it doesn't start with an opportunity
to buy an Oyster (eg on a bus)

Get him one in his name now, then! And you said that he would "turn up
at the station and buy a ticket", anyway.

Not if he simply cannot understand the value/benefit because it has not been
explained to him.

I don't see the relevance of this. Maybe you should tell him "this
will save you money".


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James Farrar
. @gmail.com

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:12:23 -0000, wrote:

U n d e r a c h i e v e r said:

wrote:


That is choosing to pay more than he needs to.

Not if the number of journeys he makes in total per year does not
warrant getting an Oyster (and I doubt it)

Not if when he next makes a TfL journey it doesn't start with an
opportunity to buy an Oyster (eg on a bus)

Not if he simply cannot understand the value/benefit because it has
not been explained to him.

Or if he's just uncomfortable with the whole idea of virtual tickets and
needs the reassurance of paying real money to a real person for a real
ticket that he can actually see and touch and hold.

I can't understand wanting to pay pay extra for such a privilege.

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James Farrar
. @gmail.com