In article ws.net,
securitynovels @ freeuk.com (JMUpton2000) wrote:

I was fortunate to have this week off from work which meant that I
got into London on the Thursday to sample them on the last 'normal'
day and even then, the photographers were out in force!

I must say there was a very courteous and gentlemanly atmosphere at
the head of the 38 lane at Victoria on the Thursday between us
various photographers who were there.

My regular journey from Vic to Museum Street was one of the few
highlights of London, standing on the rear platform from the New
Oxford Street traffic lights around the curve into the Museum Street
stop.

I also made it up on the Friday to witness the amazing festivities.
Pics here BTW:
http://gallery42239.fotopic.net/c741890.html

[snip]

Great photos! I saw now fewer than 6 Routemasters on the 38 on my bike
rides between King's Cross and Westminster and back on Thursday but had
to take the tube on Friday so missed the last day entirely.

BTW, Ex London Transport RT LLU670 and KYY529 have no fleet numbers
given. They should be RT3871 and RT1702 according to an old ABC of mine.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
Pics here BTW:
http://gallery42239.fotopic.net/c741890.html

[snip]

Great photos! I saw now fewer than 6 Routemasters on the 38 on my bike
rides between King's Cross and Westminster and back on Thursday but had
to take the tube on Friday so missed the last day entirely.

BTW, Ex London Transport RT LLU670 and KYY529 have no fleet numbers
given. They should be RT3871 and RT1702 according to an old ABC of mine.

Duly noted and altered thanks! I have to admit that RT's are a little
before my time and none of the registration numbers match up unlike the
Routemasters so if I cannot see the fleetnumber clearly on the picture, I
get a bit stuck!

Regards
John M Upton

In article ws.net,
securitynovels @ freeuk.com (JMUpton2000) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
Pics here BTW: http://gallery42239.fotopic.net/c741890.html

[snip]

Great photos! I saw now fewer than 6 Routemasters on the 38 on my
bike rides between King's Cross and Westminster and back on Thursday
but had to take the tube on Friday so missed the last day entirely.

BTW, Ex London Transport RT LLU670 and KYY529 have no fleet numbers
given. They should be RT3871 and RT1702 according to an old ABC of
mine.

Duly noted and altered thanks! I have to admit that RT's are a
little before my time and none of the registration numbers match up
unlike the Routemasters so if I cannot see the fleetnumber clearly on
the picture, I get a bit stuck!

Fair enough. I had to go back to my oldest (1963) edition to get both of
those! I looked in a later edition first and LLU670 wasn't there.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message ws.net,
JMUpton2000 writes
Duly noted and altered thanks! I have to admit that RT's are a little
before my time and none of the registration numbers match up unlike the
Routemasters so if I cannot see the fleetnumber clearly on the picture,
get a bit stuck!
In the back of my mind is the idea that RTs were pre-selector boxes and
the RM(L)s were fully auto boxes. Can anyone confirm or deny?
--
Clive

In article ,
(Clive) wrote:

In message ws.net,
JMUpton2000 writes

Duly noted and altered thanks! I have to admit that RT's are a
little before my time and none of the registration numbers match up
unlike the Routemasters so if I cannot see the fleetnumber clearly
on the picture, get a bit stuck!

In the back of my mind is the idea that RTs were pre-selector boxes
and the RM(L)s were fully auto boxes. Can anyone confirm or deny?

That's my understanding.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:56 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In the back of my mind is the idea that RTs were pre-selector boxes
and the RM(L)s were fully auto boxes. Can anyone confirm or deny?

That's my understanding.

The RMC, RCL and those RMLs built for the Country Bus department
(and thus passed on to London Country) were only semi-automatic. No
third pedal, but gears were selected manually - you had to change up
and down the box. It was the same with most buses of that (my!) era.
We had no fully automatic buses of any description (and more than a
few fully manual ones, but that's getting off the topic in hand).

--
Bill Hayles

http://billnot.com

In article ,
(Bill Hayles) wrote:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:56 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In the back of my mind is the idea that RTs were pre-selector
boxes and the RM(L)s were fully auto boxes. Can anyone confirm
or deny?

That's my understanding.

The RMC, RCL and those RMLs built for the Country Bus department
(and thus passed on to London Country) were only semi-automatic. No
third pedal, but gears were selected manually - you had to change up
and down the box. It was the same with most buses of that (my!) era.
We had no fully automatic buses of any description (and more than a
few fully manual ones, but that's getting off the topic in hand).

What happened to the ex-London Country buses that came back to LT? Did
they change the gearboxes?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:40 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Bill Hayles) wrote:


The RMC, RCL and those RMLs built for the Country Bus department
(and thus passed on to London Country) were only semi-automatic.

What happened to the ex-London Country buses that came back to LT? Did
they change the gearboxes?

I don't know, as it was after I stopped driving buses - I'd like to
know that too.

--
Bill Hayles

http://billnot.com