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In message , Sir Benjamin Nunn
writes Or almost anywhere on the London Bridge / Victoria / Clapham Junction lines. or Tramlink. London Bridge to Gatwick is 29 minutes. London Bridge to LCY will be 24 minutes (allowing 5 minutes for the change at Canning Town). Obviously, if you are nearer to a Brighton-line station then Gatwick will be the better option. And thus is vastly more useful for people who are visiting London (and tending to stay in the centre) rather than those who already live here and are travelling to Europe. It depends entirely on where such people live. If they live near Luton, Stansted or Heathrow, any of those are likely to be a better option than London City or Gatwick. People who work in the City commute from a vast range of different places from all directions, varied distances and travelling times from the centre, and an airport 22 minutes East of Bank is therefore only of convenience to a limited subset of them. Exactly. That's why London has 5 airports - to cater for as many subsets as possible. LCY will get increasingly better connected (even to South London) in a few years time, when the branch is extended south to Woolwich Arsenal and north to Stratford International. Even more so when Crossrail is built. If City Airport was actually 22 minutes West of Holborn, 22 minutes North of Euston, or 22 minutes South of Embankment, the impact on visitors to Central London would be minimal, but the subset of Londoners that the airport happened to benefit would be significantly different. But its not, is it? I can't really see what your point is, other than the obvious one that different airports are closer to different groups of people in the London area. -- Paul Terry |
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"Paul Terry" wrote in message
... Obviously, if you are nearer to a Brighton-line station then Gatwick will be the better option. Unless you want to go to Paris, in which case forget about Gatwick! |
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In message , Paul Terry
writes But its not, is it? I can't really see what your point is, other than the obvious one that different airports are closer to different groups of people in the London area. LCY will never be a major player because it's planes need a 6% approach as opposed to the 3% of all other major airports. -- Clive |
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In message , Vernon writes
Unless you want to go to Paris, in which case forget about Gatwick! Some decades ago there used to be a wonderful "hedge-hopper" service from Gatwick to Le Touquet (twin-engined prop, as I recall, which hardly had time to rise more than a few thousand feet before beginning the descent). It was met by a train on the tarmac at Le Touquet that sped to Paris, with only a brief stop at Amiens. It was the bee's knees in terms of speed and low cost in those days - probably faster than anything available today, given the almost instantaneous check-in and go. -- Paul Terry |
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Martin Underwood wrote:
Clive wrote in : In message , Paul Terry writes But its not, is it? I can't really see what your point is, other than the obvious one that different airports are closer to different groups of people in the London area. LCY will never be a major player because it's planes need a 6% approach as opposed to the 3% of all other major airports. When you say "6% approach" are you referring to the rate of descent - normally 300 feet/mile? I can imagine Canary Wharf and all the other tower blocks of central London having a pretty serious effect for approach from the west or departure to the west, but I presume approach/departure in the other direction is much less restricted. It's actually 5.5% glide slope compared to 3% at most airports, and it applies in both directions. It's largely for noise abatement reasons. Would a steep descent/take-off be enough to restrict the usage of an airport or would it just make life more "interesting" for pilots? The main factors restricting the use of the airport are the noise limits, which severely restrict the aircraft types that may be used, also runway length (only 1319 metres compared to, say, Luton at 2160 m), and limits on operating hours and numbers of movements imposed by the local planning authority (L.B. of Newham). -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:34:56 -0000, "Ian F."
wrote: Heh! No, but it would take me 30 mins to get to Bank and then another, allegedly, 22 to get to LC. I can get to Gatwick by overground train in about 30 minutes. So you live nearer to Gatwick than to LC. Is this of general interest? |
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![]() "Paul Terry" wrote in message ... In message , Vernon writes Unless you want to go to Paris, in which case forget about Gatwick! Some decades ago there used to be a wonderful "hedge-hopper" service from Gatwick to Le Touquet (twin-engined prop, as I recall, which hardly had time to rise more than a few thousand feet before beginning the descent). It was met by a train on the tarmac at Le Touquet that sped to Paris, with only a brief stop at Amiens. It was the bee's knees in terms of speed and low cost in those days - probably faster than anything available today, given the almost instantaneous check-in and go. "Anything" now equals "nothing"! No service to Paris. |
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In article , Paul Terry
writes Unless you want to go to Paris, in which case forget about Gatwick! Some decades ago there used to be a wonderful "hedge-hopper" service from Gatwick to Le Touquet (twin-engined prop, as I recall, which hardly had time to rise more than a few thousand feet before beginning the descent). It was met by a train on the tarmac at Le Touquet that sped to Paris, with only a brief stop at Amiens. It was the bee's knees in terms of speed and low cost in those days The Carvairs from Southend to Le Touquet were also met by these trains for those passengers without their cars. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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It's now open. Passengers were carried from about 17:00 this evening,
Friday 2 December. Al Holmes |
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