tim (moved to sweden) said:

I can't quite understand what they were checking though, as
everyone they stopped had already gone through the exit barrier
with their Oyster - and they were asking to scan them. They didn't
seem to care about those, like me, with paper tickets.

As the machine keep the used tickets, what proof of payment
do they expect you to have?

The original poster clearly said they were only checking Oyster cards,
not tickets. The proof of payment would be stored in the Oyster's
records.

On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:15:34 +0100, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:

What would happen if you refused to be checked? If you told them you just
entered from the surface, and were leaving on another exit?

Well if they'd just seen you pass through the exit gates or you emerged
from
a direction where there were only exit gates then I should imagine they'd
be
disinclined to believe you.

As the machine keep the used tickets, what proof of payment
do they expect you to have?

The barriers at KXStP don't eat the tickets - it's an out-of-station
interchange.

In any case, the barriers can probably be set to return all tickets -
I once noticed my single ticket didn't get swallowed when leaving the
last station before a section of line closed for engineering works,
and assumed this was so that passengers could keep their tickets to
use on the replacement buses.

Its easy to get a ticket out the gates after its taken it. It doesn't drop
into the bin until after about 20 others have been put in. A few questions
about where you purchased, how much, when etc would easily identify your
ticket if needed.

Mal

"tim (moved to sweden)" wrote in message
...

"Graham J" wrote in message
...
I can't quite understand what they were checking though, as everyone
they stopped had already gone through the exit barrier with their
Oyster - and they were asking to scan them. They didn't seem to care
about those, like me, with paper tickets.

Excuse me, possibly stupid: How far does LU reserve the right to check
your
ticket after passing the gates or leaving a bus? Honestly, after I
passed
the gates I would have thought I left their area of control.

I'd agree with that when it comes to having left a bus, but they have the
right to ask to inspect your ticket anywhere on LU premises.

What would happen if you refused to be checked? If you told them you
just
entered from the surface, and were leaving on another exit?

Well if they'd just seen you pass through the exit gates or you emerged
from
a direction where there were only exit gates then I should imagine they'd
be
disinclined to believe you.

As the machine keep the used tickets, what proof of payment
do they expect you to have?

tim

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:40:15 GMT, "Graham J"
wrote:

What would happen if you refused to be checked? If you told them you just
entered from the surface, and were leaving on another exit?

Well if they'd just seen you pass through the exit gates or you emerged from
a direction where there were only exit gates then I should imagine they'd be
disinclined to believe you. As far as I am aware you don't actually have to
be caught in the act of breaching the bye-laws, only for it to be reasonable
to believe that you have done so.

And no doubt they have CCTV covering the whole area, should it come
down to that.

"Andrea" wrote in message
oups.com...
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?

I've worked in London for several years and only ever come across one roving
patrol which were out at the far end of the Piccadilly Line near Heathrow.

"Andrea" wrote in message
oups.com...
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?

I've worked in London for several years and only ever come across one roving patrol which were out
at the far end of the Piccadilly Line near Heathrow.

Lived here all my life. Only place ticket has been checked other than at a barrier
is at Green Park in the interchange tunnels. I would guess trying to spot people
with Z2 only tickets travelling through Z1.

TKD wrote:
"Andrea" wrote in message
groups.com...

Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?

I've worked in London for several years and only ever come across one roving patrol which were out
at the far end of the Piccadilly Line near Heathrow.

Lived here all my life. Only place ticket has been checked other than at a barrier
is at Green Park in the interchange tunnels. I would guess trying to spot people
with Z2 only tickets travelling through Z1.

Seen them once many years ago on a central line train just before Ealing
Broadway.

Most tubes are probably too overcrowded for the inspectors to move about
in...

--
Paul

In article , Paul paulroberthill_
writes
Seen them once many years ago on a central line train just before Ealing
Broadway.

One Saturday going to Ealing Broadway my ticket was checked on the
Central Line. Then I got on a bus, and it was checked again.
--
Thoss

TKD wrote:
"Andrea" wrote in message
groups.com...

Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?

I've worked in London for several years and only ever come across one roving patrol which were out
at the far end of the Piccadilly Line near Heathrow.


Lived here all my life. Only place ticket has been checked other than at a barrier
is at Green Park in the interchange tunnels. I would guess trying to spot people
with Z2 only tickets travelling through Z1.

Been checked on a train once or maybe twice in 8 years.

At interchanges/exits, many more times, maybe 30. (But if you ignore the
time I lived in Finsbury Park, you can reduce that down to about five ;-)

Last time was at Warren Street interchange a few weeks ago.

Andrea wrote:
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?

I see them quite often, they don't wander round inspecting tickets so
much as target a station in a big group.

There were a load at Finsbury Park (which has no barriers) last week
with police officers and dogs. At FP they even put up a notice in the
ticket office listing what they found last time.

Often ticket inspectors target interchanges and stand in the passageway
checking them. AIUI there are usually uniformed inspectors with
plain-clothed ones behind so that those who turn the corner, spot the
inspector and then turn back are also caught