In article ,
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 01:48 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

My Cambridge to Underground Zones 1 & 2 tickets don't get eaten at
East Putney which is much more baffling.

It's eminently logical actually. The ticket has two validities -
one LU and one NR. A LU gate only looks at the LU bit. It cannot
know whether you have had your ride on NR before entering LU or if
the NR trip is after leaving LU. Therefore the gate has to give you
the benefit of the doubt and return the ticket once it has done what
it needs to do in respect of the LU validity. Simple.

Huh? It's an NR to LUL ticket so when it gets to an exit gate that's
the LU journey done and therefore the whole journey done, surely?

And why does a ticket (e.g. a Saver Return) to Putney (SWT) cost so much
more than one to Underground Zones 1 and 2?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
And why does a ticket (e.g. a Saver Return) to Putney (SWT) cost so much
more than one to Underground Zones 1 and 2?

That annoys me too! I think to Putney we pay three bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer
3. London - Putney

Wheras to East Putney we pay two bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer

It's an irritating pricing structure because there are many journeys
from the Putney area to Central London which are much quicker and much
less congested as Train + Tube rather than Tube + Tube + Tube. But the
quicker and less congested one costs about twice as much

Chris

In article .com,
(Chris!) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
And why does a ticket (e.g. a Saver Return) to Putney (SWT) cost so
much
more than one to Underground Zones 1 and 2?

That annoys me too! I think to Putney we pay three bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer
3. London - Putney

Wheras to East Putney we pay two bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer

It's an irritating pricing structure because there are many journeys
from the Putney area to Central London which are much quicker and much
less congested as Train + Tube rather than Tube + Tube + Tube. But
the quicker and less congested one costs about twice as much

Indeed. So when is Ken going to sort this out?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
And why does a ticket (e.g. a Saver Return) to Putney (SWT) cost so
much
more than one to Underground Zones 1 and 2?

That annoys me too! I think to Putney we pay three bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer
3. London - Putney

Wheras to East Putney we pay two bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer

It's an irritating pricing structure because there are many journeys
from the Putney area to Central London which are much quicker and much
less congested as Train + Tube rather than Tube + Tube + Tube. But
the quicker and less congested one costs about twice as much

Indeed. So when is Ken going to sort this out?



When(/if) he gets given any kind of power over the NR fare structure.
Obviously TfL would prefer all rail travel within the zones to be ticketed
in the same way as Tube/DLR, but the London TOCs aren't keen on this...

--
John Band
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John Band wrote:
"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
And why does a ticket (e.g. a Saver Return) to Putney (SWT) cost
so much
more than one to Underground Zones 1 and 2?

That annoys me too! I think to Putney we pay three bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer
3. London - Putney

Wheras to East Putney we pay two bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer

It's an irritating pricing structure because there are many
journeys from the Putney area to Central London which are much
quicker and much less congested as Train + Tube rather than Tube
+ Tube + Tube. But the quicker and less congested one costs
about twice as much

Indeed. So when is Ken going to sort this out?

When(/if) he gets given any kind of power over the NR fare
structure. Obviously TfL would prefer all rail travel within the
zones to be ticketed in the same way as Tube/DLR, but the London
TOCs aren't keen on this...

Meanwhile, the quicker, less congested, and mostly air-conditioned
service costs more. Is that so unfair?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

John Band wrote:
"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
And why does a ticket (e.g. a Saver Return) to Putney (SWT) cost
so much more than one to Underground Zones 1 and 2?

That annoys me too! I think to Putney we pay three bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer
3. London - Putney

Wheras to East Putney we pay two bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer

It's an irritating pricing structure because there are many
journeys from the Putney area to Central London which are much
quicker and much less congested as Train + Tube rather than Tube
+ Tube + Tube. But the quicker and less congested one costs
about twice as much

Indeed. So when is Ken going to sort this out?

When(/if) he gets given any kind of power over the NR fare
structure. Obviously TfL would prefer all rail travel within the
zones to be ticketed in the same way as Tube/DLR, but the London
TOCs aren't keen on this...

Meanwhile, the quicker, less congested, and mostly air-conditioned
service costs more. Is that so unfair?

Aircon to Putney? Don't make me laugh!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

John Band wrote:
"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
And why does a ticket (e.g. a Saver Return) to Putney (SWT)
cost so much more than one to Underground Zones 1 and 2?

That annoys me too! I think to Putney we pay three bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer
3. London - Putney

Wheras to East Putney we pay two bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer

It's an irritating pricing structure because there are many
journeys from the Putney area to Central London which are much
quicker and much less congested as Train + Tube rather than Tube
+ Tube + Tube. But the quicker and less congested one costs
about twice as much

Indeed. So when is Ken going to sort this out?

When(/if) he gets given any kind of power over the NR fare
structure. Obviously TfL would prefer all rail travel within the
zones to be ticketed in the same way as Tube/DLR, but the London
TOCs aren't keen on this...

Meanwhile, the quicker, less congested, and mostly air-conditioned
service costs more. Is that so unfair?

Aircon to Putney? Don't make me laugh!

I'm not being funny. The 4tph service between Waterloo and the Hounslow
Loop which stops at Putney has been air-conditioned (Desiro class 450)
since December 2004. AFAIK the Windsor trains that provide a 2tph
service at Putney are also Desiro-worked. That leaves the 4tph Kingston
loop service which I believe is still worked with Class 455. So that's
6 out of 10 tph off-peak which are air-conditioned. I think it's
similar in the peaks.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)