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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:38 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
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Victoria was built with a scissors crossover at the North end, wasn;t
it? Why on earth did they remove it?


I think you're right. No idea why they were removed.
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Default Victoria Line on Wednesday morning

In article .com,
(TheOneKEA) wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:38 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

[Victoria line - Victoria line layout]

Victoria was built with a scissors crossover at the North end,
wasn;t it? Why on earth did they remove it?


I think you're right. No idea why they were removed.


Because Victoria has got a second scissors crossover south of the
station and two central reversing sidings. When the service is
buggered from Victoria to Brixton it can be used to reverse the
southbound service. The original scissors crossover (just like the one
that used to be at Highbury) is thus redundant.

http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Vi...en%20Pk-rm.gif refers.


I appreciate it's redundant, but then it turns out not to be so on
occasion when other equipment fails. Some redundancy makes it easier to
cope with failures.

My surprise is that the facility was removed having been installed. It
would have cost very little just to leave it there.

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Default Victoria Line on Wednesday morning

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(TheOneKEA) wrote:

http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Vi...en%20Pk-rm.gif refers.

I appreciate it's redundant, but then it turns out not to be so on
occasion when other equipment fails. Some redundancy makes it easier to
cope with failures.


True, but in theory the simultaneous failure of the signalling in
Victoria South Sidings and the trailing crossover north of the station
should not happen. The fact that it did does not mean that having a
scissors crossover in position would have changed anything.


My surprise is that the facility was removed having been installed. It
would have cost very little just to leave it there.


Not necessarily - if that were the case the scissors crossover west of
Liverpool Street (Central) would not have been simplified either, and
yet it was - and Liverpool Street has the same arrangement as Victoria.

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