On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 00:46:58 -0000, (Mark Brader) wrote:

... let's not descend into tabloid exaggerations. You and the
driver may have been shocked. But you wouldn't be "in shock".
That's a specific medical condition. ...

Let's not assume that words or phrases have only one meaning, either.

Sometimes they should.

Laurence Payne wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 00:46:58 -0000, (Mark Brader) wrote:

... let's not descend into tabloid exaggerations. You and the
driver may have been shocked. But you wouldn't be "in shock".
That's a specific medical condition. ...

Let's not assume that words or phrases have only one meaning, either.

Sometimes they should.

Language doesn't work that way. (And that's a statement with more than
one meaning as well.)
--
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p10862735.html
(a train on the Hythe Pier Railway, Hampshire in 1998)

The original post was a thoughtful contribution about an upsetting
incident, and all the respondents seem able to do is bitch about
semantics, when the meaning was perfectly clear all along.

Shame on you.

On 29 Nov 2005 00:37:27 -0800, "peter"
wrote:

The original post was a thoughtful contribution about an upsetting
incident, and all the respondents seem able to do is bitch about
semantics, when the meaning was perfectly clear all along

The original included more implied sympathy for the effect on
witnesses than for the victim. It needed challenging.

Laurence Payne wrote:
On 29 Nov 2005 00:37:27 -0800, "peter"
wrote:

The original post was a thoughtful contribution about an upsetting
incident, and all the respondents seem able to do is bitch about
semantics, when the meaning was perfectly clear all along

The original included more implied sympathy for the effect on
witnesses than for the victim. It needed challenging.

What "victim"? It was the individual's choice to jump. The only people
adversely affected were the LU staff and others who had to clear up the mess
and the passengers who witnessed it.

I hope the poor soul who jumped got what he wanted.

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:57:49 +0000 (UTC), "Brimstone"
wrote:

The original included more implied sympathy for the effect on
witnesses than for the victim. It needed challenging.

What "victim"? It was the individual's choice to jump. The only people
adversely affected were the LU staff and others who had to clear up the mess
and the passengers who witnessed it.

I hope the poor soul who jumped got what he wanted.

See what I mean? :-)

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:57:49 +0000 (UTC), "Brimstone"
said:

What "victim"? It was the individual's choice to jump. The only people
adversely affected were the LU staff and others who had to clear up the mess
and the passengers who witnessed it.

I hope the poor soul who jumped got what he wanted.

I don't. I hope that the inconsiderate ******* got *really* badly
hurtand spends the the rest of its life stuck in a wheelchair ****ing
itself uncontrollably.

If you want to kill yourself there are plenty of ways which only
inconvenience yourself, your family, and whoever finds your rotting
corpse, instead of inconveniencing hundreds of strangers.

--
David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david

David Cantrell wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:57:49 +0000 (UTC), "Brimstone"
said:

What "victim"? It was the individual's choice to jump. The only
people adversely affected were the LU staff and others who had to
clear up the mess and the passengers who witnessed it.

I hope the poor soul who jumped got what he wanted.

I don't. I hope that the inconsiderate ******* got *really* badly
hurtand spends the the rest of its life stuck in a wheelchair ****ing
itself uncontrollably.

If you want to kill yourself there are plenty of ways which only
inconvenience yourself, your family, and whoever finds your rotting
corpse, instead of inconveniencing hundreds of strangers.

You appear to be under the misapprehension that someone who does such a
thing is full control of themselves. Perhaps you might like to give that a
few minutes thought, assuming you're capable.

"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:57:49 +0000 (UTC), "Brimstone"
said:

What "victim"? It was the individual's choice to jump. The only people
adversely affected were the LU staff and others who had to clear up the
mess
and the passengers who witnessed it.

I hope the poor soul who jumped got what he wanted.

I don't. I hope that the inconsiderate ******* got *really* badly
hurtand spends the the rest of its life stuck in a wheelchair ****ing
itself uncontrollably.

If you want to kill yourself there are plenty of ways which only
inconvenience yourself, your family, and whoever finds your rotting
corpse, instead of inconveniencing hundreds of strangers.

That person jumped in front of the train because they were mentally ill.
No-one is that selfish to kill themselves to delay other people. Suggesting
that shows just how much empathy you have towards your fellow man.
Terrible.

I just hope you and everyone you know and love never suffer from depression.

--
David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david