On 4 Dec 2005 11:48:50 -0800, "TheOneKEA" wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
I may be horribly out of date but here goes.

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I confess I don't know quite how the interavailable routes work - i.e.
where LU fares apply and the TOC has to get a share. I would imagine
this is based on a composite of sales and ridership surveys. The
existence of ticket gates at places such as Fenchurch Street will
provide some extra data as to journey volumes.

This is the part that I'm most curious about - whilst looking this up
in u.t.l. I came across a thread where someone vehemently stated that
Chiltern receives no revenue whatsoever for trains that run to
Aylesbury via the Metropolitan Line, while someone else stated in equal
fashion that they did. I wondered which statement was true.

Obviously, as you said, the presence of ticket gates and Oyster pads
makes collecting the necessary data much simpler, and thus the revenue
sharing probably follows the actual usage much more closely.

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This is probably more complicated because the trains interwork over LUL
tracks either side of NR tracks. People *may* be confusing what happens
to ticket revenue with what gets paid between the parties for the use of
the tracks under a separate agreement. Given that the only reason why
we have Zones 6AB and C is to create higher fares to avoid a massive
step change in the Chiltern fare structure beyond Amersham then I think
you can take it as read that Chiltern clearly do get revenue for its
trains over LU tracks. IIRC Chiltern would not agree to Zone 6 fares
being applied right out to Amersham in the same way as LU charges to Z6
to Epping and other stations in Essex where it is the sole operator.
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Paul C


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