David Bradley wrote:

There is a lot more information that has been provided to members of the
related Yahoo forum, even so, it is very doubtful that the News Section will
every appear again in the format that was so appreciated by very many tram
enthusiasts. Isn't it a sad reflection of life today in what is supposedly an
enviroment that we can ask questions on almost anything and have a right to a
response?

David Bradey

I am not au fait with the Yahoo group in question, could you enlighten
me as to what it's called?

I agree completely with your sentiments. I guess it shows the power of
the web - the fact that Bombardier were concerned about the bad
impression an enthusiasts website might create for those whom may be
considering buying trams at least suggests that transport
authorities/tramway operating consortia do their research about tram
makes and models from a wide variety of sources before placing a
multimillion order. Anyway, my impression was that Stephen's site
was/is broadly positive about the Cologne model trams that were chosen
for Tramlink.

One last (and rather obvious) thought - if potential customers (in the
form of city transport authorities or tramway operators) look at
enthusiasts websites, then surely many of them will also be able to
read the criticism of Bombardier both here on usenet and in other
internet forums, criticism which has been created by their heavy handed
approach to Stephen and his website.

On 12 Dec 2005 08:44:45 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

David Bradley wrote:

There is a lot more information that has been provided to members of the
related Yahoo forum, even so, it is very doubtful that the News Section will
every appear again in the format that was so appreciated by very many tram
enthusiasts. Isn't it a sad reflection of life today in what is supposedly an
enviroment that we can ask questions on almost anything and have a right to a
response?

David Bradey

I am not au fait with the Yahoo group in question, could you enlighten
me as to what it's called?

Try this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/croydontramlink/ or use my links page
at http://www.trolleybus.net/tramlinks.htm for Croydon Tramlink to sign up to
receive messages in your email client.


I agree completely with your sentiments. I guess it shows the power of
the web - the fact that Bombardier were concerned about the bad
impression an enthusiasts website might create for those whom may be
considering buying trams at least suggests that transport
authorities/tramway operating consortia do their research about tram
makes and models from a wide variety of sources before placing a
multimillion order. Anyway, my impression was that Stephen's site
was/is broadly positive about the Cologne model trams that were chosen
for Tramlink.

He sure was, and that is the thanks he got for his troubles.

One last (and rather obvious) thought - if potential customers (in the
form of city transport authorities or tramway operators) look at
enthusiasts websites, then surely many of them will also be able to
read the criticism of Bombardier both here on usenet and in other
internet forums, criticism which has been created by their heavy handed
approach to Stephen and his website.

Now that's an interesting thought that your humble enthusiast can make a
difference to shape the transport infrastructure of the future, I think I need
to plug my website www.tfwl.org.uk and the sit back for the desired
improvements that are sought!

David Bradley

In article , David Bradley
writes
Now that's an interesting thought that your humble enthusiast can make a
difference to shape the transport infrastructure of the future,

Some years ago I got an email from a transit authority in (IIRC) Canada,
asking my opinion on metro rolling stock.

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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:11:52 +0000, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:

In article , David Bradley
writes
Now that's an interesting thought that your humble enthusiast can make a
difference to shape the transport infrastructure of the future,

Some years ago I got an email from a transit authority in (IIRC) Canada,
asking my opinion on metro rolling stock.

I have a vague interest in sound mirrors, big concrete things built on
the south and east coast from WWI to the 1930s, before radar came
along and made them spectacularly obsolete:
http://www.southdown-amateur-radio-s...d_mirrors.html

I recently had an email from someone claiming to want me to bid to
supply some of this early warning technology to the Bangladesh navy.
Snag is, the ones I've see are things like 200' long concrete walls,
which were at their limits with the enemy aeroplanes of the 1930s...
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes
In article , David Bradley
writes
Now that's an interesting thought that your humble enthusiast can make a
difference to shape the transport infrastructure of the future,

Some years ago I got an email from a transit authority in (IIRC)
Canada, asking my opinion on metro rolling stock.

While guiding in a property in the Midlands, a member of the property
staff came over and asked me to clarify and explain some features of
their property's mediaeval roof for them! I was very flattered but
their faith was a complete mystery to me.

In Clive's case, though, I'm sure it was perfectly intentional and
valid!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...
In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes
In article , David Bradley
writes

Now that's an interesting thought that your
humble enthusiast can make a difference
to shape the transport infrastructure of the future,

Some years ago I got an email from a transit authority
in (IIRC) Canada, asking my opinion on metro rolling stock.

While guiding in a property in the Midlands, a member of
the property staff came over and asked me to clarify and
explain some features of
their property's mediaeval roof for them!

thumbs collar An American federal government body once asked me to review
their guideline document on radio-controlled timepieces.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

In article ,
John Rowland wrote:
"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...

While guiding in a property in the Midlands, a member of
the property staff came over and asked me to clarify and
explain some features of
their property's mediaeval roof for them!

thumbs collar An American federal government body once asked me to review
their guideline document on radio-controlled timepieces.

IRTA "radio controlled codpieces", I don't know why ...

Nick
--
I like being weird and am training to become eccentric when I'm older.
http://www.leverton.org/ -- Caz Fisher, u.m.r

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Nick Leverton wrote:

In article ,
John Rowland wrote:
"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...

While guiding in a property in the Midlands, a member of the property
staff came over and asked me to clarify and explain some features of
their property's mediaeval roof for them!

thumbs collar An American federal government body once asked me to
review their guideline document on radio-controlled timepieces.

IRTA "radio controlled codpieces", I don't know why ...

Oh yes, that was another one of the CIA's schemes to discredit Castro.

A friend of mine, when we were undergraduates together, was emailed by
some textbook authors to ask if they could use one of his essays, which
he'd posted online, in their book.

The only things i've been emailed about are the manufacture of fig liqueur
and computer simulation of zombie apocalypses, but in both cases, it was
by people with information to add to stuff i'd written.

tom

--
Socialism - straight in the mainline!

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:16:23 -0000, "John Rowland"
wrote:

"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...
In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes
In article , David Bradley
writes

Now that's an interesting thought that your
humble enthusiast can make a difference
to shape the transport infrastructure of the future,

Some years ago I got an email from a transit authority
in (IIRC) Canada, asking my opinion on metro rolling stock.

While guiding in a property in the Midlands, a member of
the property staff came over and asked me to clarify and
explain some features of
their property's mediaeval roof for them!

thumbs collar An American federal government body once asked me to review
their guideline document on radio-controlled timepieces.

polishes knuckles I regularly get emails asking me to assist former
members of foreign governments, who are having personal difficulties,
transfer money ...


Wivens
--
E.D. Wivens http://www.katzphur.co.uk/

Putting the fun back into fundamentally flawed.

"E.D. Wivens" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:16:23 -0000, "John Rowland"
wrote:
thumbs collar An American federal government body once asked me to
review
their guideline document on radio-controlled timepieces.

polishes knuckles I regularly get emails asking me to assist former
members of foreign governments, who are having personal difficulties,
transfer money ...

Every few weeks or so, I get an email claiming to be from the Syrian state
railways, who are in urgent need of buffers and wagon wheelsets.. :-S

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