"Brimstone" wrote in message
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"Boltar" wrote in message
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Mal wrote:
Where is Boltar?????

Didn't see the point on commenting on it. Everyone knows my views and
if I posted what I really thought about Bob Crowe and his performing
monkey Bobby Law I'd probably be done for libel.

Suffice to say it seems to me that the sort of people who join the RMT
are nothing but whinging work shy scum who are quite happy to shaft
everyone to get what they want. A dose of the real world instead of
their cosy unionised protectorate where theres always someone to
pick up the toys they throw out of their ptam would be one hell of
an eye opener for them. I'll be moving offices next year in my job.
If I don't like the location I always have the option to resign. So do
they. (Oh yeah , theres that spurious safety argument they dreamt up
down the put as well. If its that important why isn't Aslef balloting
too then
and the whole workforce walking out?)

If you want to know why ASLEF isn't balloting you haven't read what it's
all about.

I think that was his point - it clearly isn't about safety, as ASLEF are
staying put.

d wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
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"Boltar" wrote in message
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Mal wrote:
Where is Boltar?????

Didn't see the point on commenting on it. Everyone knows my views
and if I posted what I really thought about Bob Crowe and his
performing monkey Bobby Law I'd probably be done for libel.

Suffice to say it seems to me that the sort of people who join the
RMT are nothing but whinging work shy scum who are quite happy to
shaft everyone to get what they want. A dose of the real world
instead of their cosy unionised protectorate where theres always
someone to pick up the toys they throw out of their ptam would be one
hell of
an eye opener for them. I'll be moving offices next year in my job.
If I don't like the location I always have the option to resign. So
do they. (Oh yeah , theres that spurious safety argument they
dreamt up down the put as well. If its that important why isn't
Aslef balloting too then
and the whole workforce walking out?)

If you want to know why ASLEF isn't balloting you haven't read what
it's all about.

I think that was his point - it clearly isn't about safety, as ASLEF
are staying put.

Safety has different people in different sections/departments dealing with
it.

In article ,
d wrote:
I think that was his point - it clearly isn't about safety, as ASLEF are
staying put.

Aren't ASLEF a driver-only union? Doesn't the RMT represent all types
of railway staff? Isn't the issue over station manning levels?


--
RIP Morph (1977-2005)

of railway staff? Isn't the issue over station manning levels?

Thats just a smokescreen. As usual its really about doing less
work more conveneitly for the same or more money. If
The Two Bobbies were really genuine with their hand wringing
soul searching routing about how they're concerned about the
travelling public, they wouldn't have called a strike on new years
eve just to completely and deliberately screw up the best party
most people have the whole year. They've turned into cardboard
cutout charicatures of all that was bad about the unions in
the 1970s (though Bob Crowe by the way he dresses and talks
seems to consider himself some sort of dapper working class,
salt-o-the-earth intellectual. What a joke)

B2003

"Mike Bristow" wrote in message
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In article ,
d wrote:
I think that was his point - it clearly isn't about safety, as ASLEF are
staying put.

Aren't ASLEF a driver-only union?

Err, nope, some managers are also in ASLEF...
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change from jealous to sad to reply.

Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
d wrote:
I think that was his point - it clearly isn't about safety, as ASLEF
are staying put.

Aren't ASLEF a driver-only union?

Membership is open to those in the line of promotion to driver or who have
been drivers.

elyob wrote:
Do they really believe that striking 31st December is going to get the
respect of the general public?

Of course not, but after many people started saying "It's Christmas, so
where's the tube strike", I guess they had no choice but to move it to
New Year.

I think Mr Crow needs to realise that once a terrorist has chosen to
let off a bomb on a train (or whatever) there's pretty much nothing
anyone is going to do about it, whether you're in a ticket office or
manning barriers. We all know the solution is to stop anyone wanting to
do it, and that's rather beyond the remit of ANY tube workers.

And, as I see it, moving people to the 'front line' does seem like a
good move, if only to give people the perception that they're safer.
Maybe it's the fear that more staff would be at risk from terrorists?

In any case, it's always the same thing. The RMT strike, get what they
want, agree to it, then change their mind in 6-12 months. And as long
as you make statements that mention 'safety' in every other sentence,
you're supposed to be taken seriously. After all, anyone that doesn't
support the strike is obviously asking for another atrocity on the
railway..

Jonathan

http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/


Here's the truth!!!!!!


"Jonathan Morris" wrote in message
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elyob wrote:
Do they really believe that striking 31st December is going to get the
respect of the general public?

Of course not, but after many people started saying "It's Christmas, so
where's the tube strike", I guess they had no choice but to move it to
New Year.

I think Mr Crow needs to realise that once a terrorist has chosen to
let off a bomb on a train (or whatever) there's pretty much nothing
anyone is going to do about it, whether you're in a ticket office or
manning barriers. We all know the solution is to stop anyone wanting to
do it, and that's rather beyond the remit of ANY tube workers.

And, as I see it, moving people to the 'front line' does seem like a
good move, if only to give people the perception that they're safer.
Maybe it's the fear that more staff would be at risk from terrorists?

In any case, it's always the same thing. The RMT strike, get what they
want, agree to it, then change their mind in 6-12 months. And as long
as you make statements that mention 'safety' in every other sentence,
you're supposed to be taken seriously. After all, anyone that doesn't
support the strike is obviously asking for another atrocity on the
railway..

Jonathan

http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/

You wouldn't last 5 minutes.

Here;s the truth!


"Boltar" wrote in message
oups.com...
of railway staff? Isn't the issue over station manning levels?

Thats just a smokescreen. As usual its really about doing less
work more conveneitly for the same or more money. If
The Two Bobbies were really genuine with their hand wringing
soul searching routing about how they're concerned about the
travelling public, they wouldn't have called a strike on new years
eve just to completely and deliberately screw up the best party
most people have the whole year. They've turned into cardboard
cutout charicatures of all that was bad about the unions in
the 1970s (though Bob Crowe by the way he dresses and talks
seems to consider himself some sort of dapper working class,
salt-o-the-earth intellectual. What a joke)

B2003

"Dom1234" wrote in message
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http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/


Here's the truth!!!!!!

Really? As always, the union side is never presented in enough detail
to convince the public. It says that staffing is being reduced at Bank,
for example. But how many people will be on platforms and on gate lines
compared to the current number? And what's the source of the report on
that website?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)