Jonathan Morris wrote:
Alex Watson wrote:
Do Tube trains even have door opening buttons anymore? I know the newer
District line stock doesn't, including the refurbished D (?) stock.
Although.. I remember they *used* to leave the doors shut during winter,
so presumably the system still works for those trains with buttons.

You certainly don't need to press the button anymore on any LUL trains
in my experience. I'm sure you used to press the open button on the
Central Line trains, but can't remember when I last did it. Can you
still close them, or is control completely removed for the passenger?


I don't think there have ever been any close door buttons on the
Underground. The first time since the 1930s or 1940s that buttons were
introduced was on the D stock on the District, and pretty soon they got
into a pattern of just opening all the doors in summer, but leaving the
passengers to open them (not close them) in the winter. They also had
a system where, when standing at the terminus, one door per carriage
would be open.

I can't remember having to use the door open buttons anywhere on the
Underground since the Jubilee Line Extension opened. Presumably this
was something to do with the doors being linked to the platform edge
doors on that line. Why they then stopped being used on other lines I
don't know.

On the DLR passengers always have to open the doors, but can't close
them.

I don't think there have ever been any close door buttons on the
Underground.

Doesn't the Central line have them?

TKD wrote:
I don't think there have ever been any close door buttons on the
Underground.

Doesn't the Central line have them?


I didn't think so, but I spose I'll have to check now.

"TKD" wrote in message
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I don't think there have ever been any close door buttons on the
Underground.

Doesn't the Central line have them?

The Central Line does have door open buttons, actually located on the door
itself.
However, I've never had to use them.

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"TKD" wrote in message
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I don't think there have ever been any close door buttons on the
Underground.

Doesn't the Central line have them?

The Central Line does have door open buttons, actually located on the door
itself.
However, I've never had to use them.



They haven't been available to use for some years now hence in cold
weather we all freeze, particularly at Leytonstone.

Simon Lee wrote:
"TKD" wrote in message
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I don't think there have ever been any close door buttons on the
Underground.

Doesn't the Central line have them?

The Central Line does have door open buttons, actually located on the door
itself.
However, I've never had to use them.


The thing we are querying here is whether they have close buttons. I
didn't think any Underground trains had close buttons, even if they had
open buttons. But it was suggested that the Central Line did, and now
I am not sure.

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Simon Lee wrote:
"TKD" wrote in message
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I don't think there have ever been any close door buttons on the
Underground.

Doesn't the Central line have them?

The Central Line does have door open buttons, actually located on the
door
itself.
However, I've never had to use them.


The thing we are querying here is whether they have close buttons. I
didn't think any Underground trains had close buttons, even if they had
open buttons. But it was suggested that the Central Line did, and now
I am not sure.

The Central Line 1992 stock did have close buttons, and probably still does.
Though I'm not sure they did anything having only used the Central Line in
the central, tunnelled, section where they didn't need to be used.

Dave.

Dave Liney wrote:

The Central Line 1992 stock did have close buttons, and probably still
does. Though I'm not sure they did anything having only used the Central
Line in the central, tunnelled, section where they didn't need to be used.

I remember posters in about the mid 1990s trumpetting this feature, claiming
that it gave passengers the chance to shut out rainy weather at surface
stops. They seem to have since abandoned caring about this.

Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Dave Liney wrote:

The Central Line 1992 stock did have close buttons, and probably
still does. Though I'm not sure they did anything having only used
the Central Line in the central, tunnelled, section where they
didn't need to be used.

I remember posters in about the mid 1990s trumpetting this feature,
claiming that it gave passengers the chance to shut out rainy
weather at surface stops. They seem to have since abandoned caring
about this.

I remember reading here some time ago about incidents where a Central
Line passenger had pressed the door close button, not realising that he
was being followed by another passenger who was struck by the closing
door. Health & Safety considerations then led to the Close facility
being withdrawn. I'm not sure why passenger-operated door opening has
also been withdrawn on the Tube when it's still in operation on DLR.

On National Rail, some of the latest stock like Class 450 on SWT have
passenger-openable doors which individually close (following the usual
warning bleeps) after a certain time has elapsed, about 30 seconds I
think. This is very useful at a terminus where otherwise the doors
could be open for a long time.
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