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January 12th 06, 05:18 PM
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Fascist cyclists
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Walter Briscoe wrote:
In message of Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:53:10 in uk.transport.london, Martin Underwood writes Walter Briscoe wrote in : In message of Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:50:18 in uk.transport.london, Martin Underwood writes first. But suppose he's a second or so later and is just behind me. Should I delay setting off to let him overtake me or should he wait until I've turned? I reckon the latter. I reckon the former. You are turning across his path. He has right of way. A similar thing would apply if you turn across the path of a bus in a bus lane. Even if I'm indicating that I'm turning. I thought it was an offence to overtake a vehicle that's indicating, on the same side as he's indicating. I think a cycle in a cycle lane has right of way and usual rules about streams of traffic do not apply. I don't think we're talking about cycle lanes - i think we're talking about the practice of cycling up the left side of a normal lane, between the traffic and the kerb ('undertaking', i think it's called). Since this is illegal, the law doesn't have anything to say on the right of way of someone doing it! Myself, as a cyclist, i agree with Martin - if the car is ahead, the car gets priority. If the cyclist doesn't notice that the car is indicating, and rides into the side of the car as it turns, that's the cyclist's own stupid fault. I've done this myself a number of times (never actually hit the car, but been forced to brake or maneuver sharply), and it's quite clear to me that i have only myself to blame. If there is a cycle lane to the left of the leftmost normal lane, though, then yes, of course the cyclist has priority over the turning motorist, regardless of whether the motorist is indicating. Something that drivers along Torrington Place could do with reminding of. tom -- I sometimes think that the IETF is one of the crown jewels in all of western civilization. -- Tim O'Reilly |
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