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AlanG wrote: On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:27:40 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: In the UK we still retain the possibility to accompany our loved ones through check-in and to the outward passport control. I've never known that. You don't get past the check in desk without a passport and ticket in any airport I've been in this last 15 years Applies at every UK airport I've used: Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stanstead, Southampton, Newcastle, West Midlands, Hurn. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:51:43 +0000 someone who may be Graeme Wall
wrote this:- But that's not as "sexy" as new, cutting-edge equipment, so wouldn't have appealed to either our politicians or the senior security bods. Practical answers never do, not when there's a chance of playing with "sexy" new toys. -( Quote from New Scientist: The people in charge of homeland security spend far too much time watching action movies. They defend against specific movie plots instead of against the broad threats of terrorism. The quote and Ross are right. The waffle and ire with which such suggestions tend to be received by some is a good indication that these criticisms have found their mark. I think there are a number of factors at work: 1) the public want to "be safe", but are unaware of the complicated arguments around this. 2) party politicians don't want to be blamed for anything that happens. Thus they will accept almost anything that is put forward by officials. See the way they fall over themselves after any incident to rush ill-considered "laws" through the Westminster parliament. The recent extension of police detention from two weeks to a month is a prime example. 3) officials don't want to be blamed for anything that happens. Thus they will put forward anything. 4) manufacturers want to sell expensive equipment, and employers earn a margin on the staff they supply. Note that all of this assumes good motives by those involved and the public. What is missing is thorough analysis by people who can think issues through clearly. Should the UK be turned into East Germany? Would that make the public safer? Is some so-called security concept bull**** or a sensible idea? I see little or no sign of this sort of analysis by those who should be considering this. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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In uk.legal Palindr☻me wrote:
It's not especially hard - if there is a 3D reasonable image, to go from that, to a fairly decent nude image, based on facial and hand skin tone. Of course, you won't get exact blemishes, or hair colour, but it'll be pretty close. Actually, it would open whole new lines of merchandising - eg "modesty" panties and bras with woven-in gold/silver wire. The wire could be woven into words, such as, "If you can read this, you should be ashamed of yourself"..Or other wording that a lady wouldn't mention.. One argument I've heard is, "Why worry?, you show more on a beach". Missing the points that many don't and that those that do are doing so voluntarily. My points are my business and no one else's ![]() Interesting that a woman was refused entrance to a prison in America to visit her husband (a convict) because she was not wearing a bra. As if were a danger. Axel. |
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In uk.legal Roland Perry wrote:
I've never known that. You don't get past the check in desk without a passport and ticket in any airport I've been in this last 15 years The only exceptions I've found are some American airlines who want to ask passengers their security questions "did you pack this bag..." and so on, as they join the check-in queue rather than when they get to the desk. In those cases you have to wait nearby while they check in, but can still be with them most of the time until they join the passport control queue. I recently accompanied a friend to an airport and she was asked by an airline persoa (Continental) whenn when she arrived in the UK. None of their business. A pity it was not a different friend of mine as he would have told them to **** off since he has both UK and US passportd. Axel |
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Palindrâ »me wrote: A lady, of course, would never allow such a situation to arise. The best kept secrets are best kept secret. Secrecy is an option no lady will have, if the terahertz strip-search technology comes into general use. Incidentally the one at Paddington is an active scanner according to the company that made it, not a passive receiver as the publicity claims. Nick -- So when is Tony Blair going to start treating *us* with respect ? |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:55:34 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote: In message AlanG wrote: On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:27:40 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: In the UK we still retain the possibility to accompany our loved ones through check-in and to the outward passport control. I've never known that. You don't get past the check in desk without a passport and ticket in any airport I've been in this last 15 years Applies at every UK airport I've used: Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stanstead, Southampton, Newcastle, West Midlands, Hurn. We've been stopped at Newcastle , Teesside and Manchester by a bloke with a badge. |
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AlanG wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:55:34 +0000, Graeme Wall wrote: In message AlanG wrote: On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:27:40 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: In the UK we still retain the possibility to accompany our loved ones through check-in and to the outward passport control. I've never known that. You don't get past the check in desk without a passport and ticket in any airport I've been in this last 15 years Applies at every UK airport I've used: Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stanstead, Southampton, Newcastle, West Midlands, Hurn. We've been stopped at Newcastle , Teesside and Manchester by a bloke with a badge. What sort of badge? Ian Allan Planespotters Club? -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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In message , at 16:58:41 on
Mon, 16 Jan 2006, AlanG remarked: I've never known that. You don't get past the check in desk without a passport and ticket in any airport I've been in this last 15 years Applies at every UK airport I've used: Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stanstead, Southampton, Newcastle, West Midlands, Hurn. We've been stopped at Newcastle , Teesside and Manchester by a bloke with a badge. And I wasn't stopped at EMA. Indeed, the departure lounge is almost at the other end of the terminal buildings from check-in (great planning, guys - almost as good as having immigration in a shed a hundred yards from the nearest place to park an apron bus, so a guaranteed dousing when it rains). There's nothing they could do to stop you rejoining your friends after you have your boarding pass and walking all that way together. It's not like *some* foreign airports (I think Tenerife South is like this) where you are hustled past and behind the check-in desk and straight into security, rather than back onto the concourse. -- Roland Perry |
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