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Bob wrote:
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/local...682621,00.html

local politicians have
reservations about a directly elected mayor like London's "Red Ken" -
although the colour seems to have faded.


Faded? It's changed completely hasn't it? He's now green Ken pursuing a
Low Emissions Zone policy, which will mean the London to Brighton
Veteran Car Rally will never start from London again because none of
the eligible vehicles are built to Euro III standards!

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Acrosticus wrote:

Faded? It's changed completely hasn't it? He's now green Ken pursuing a
Low Emissions Zone policy, which will mean the London to Brighton
Veteran Car Rally will never start from London again because none of
the eligible vehicles are built to Euro III standards!


I did not realise that - how sad, how daft. The event should continue
and,perhaps, be held up as an exception to prove the rule. IIRC George
Santayana said "Those who cannot remeber the past are condemned to
repeat it". I do hope common sense would prevail on this one,

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Bob wrote:
Acrosticus wrote:

Faded? It's changed completely hasn't it? He's now green Ken
pursuing a Low Emissions Zone policy, which will mean the London to
Brighton Veteran Car Rally will never start from London again
because none of the eligible vehicles are built to Euro III
standards!


I did not realise that - how sad, how daft. The event should

continue
and,perhaps, be held up as an exception to prove the rule. IIRC

George
Santayana said "Those who cannot remeber the past are condemned to
repeat it". I do hope common sense would prevail on this one,


Are you sure this is right;

From the TFL website:

Which vehicles would be affected?
A Feasibility Study was undertaken between 2001 and 2003 to assess the
options for introducing a LEZ. The Study found that it was most
effective to target heavier, diesel vehicles and potentially LGVs as
they typically emit more pollution per kilometre driven.. There is no
intention to target cars with the proposed LEZ.
From early 2008, the proposed LEZ would affect Heavy Goods Vehicles
(HGVs) over 7.5 tonnes. From mid 2008, the proposed LEZ would affect
HGVs from 3.5 to 7.5 tonnes, buses and coaches from mid 2008.
The LEZ could potentially be extended to cover diesel-engined Light
Goods Vehicles (LGVs) from 2010 subject to further analysis.
The LEZ would affect all vehicles entering the zone, wherever they are
registered.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/low-emission-zone/faqs.asp

How does that relate to participants in the London to Brighton run?


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Simon Wren ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

From the TFL website:

Which vehicles would be affected?
A Feasibility Study was undertaken between 2001 and 2003 to assess the
options for introducing a LEZ. The Study found that it was most
effective to target heavier, diesel vehicles and potentially LGVs as
they typically emit more pollution per kilometre driven.. There is no
intention to target cars with the proposed LEZ.
From early 2008, the proposed LEZ would affect Heavy Goods Vehicles
(HGVs) over 7.5 tonnes. From mid 2008, the proposed LEZ would affect
HGVs from 3.5 to 7.5 tonnes, buses and coaches from mid 2008.
The LEZ could potentially be extended to cover diesel-engined Light
Goods Vehicles (LGVs) from 2010 subject to further analysis.
The LEZ would affect all vehicles entering the zone, wherever they are
registered.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/low-emission-zone/faqs.asp

How does that relate to participants in the London to Brighton run?


This para relates...
"There is no intention to target cars with the proposed LEZ."
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:36:13 +0000, Adrian wrote:


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/low-emission-zone/faqs.asp

How does that relate to participants in the London to Brighton run?


This para relates...
"There is no intention to target cars with the proposed LEZ."


Even if it was to target cars, surely a one-off special vintage car event
would be issued with an exception with out argument ?.

Not as if they are planning to run around the city in circles for a week.

Besides a lot of those vintage/veteran cars are probably better on the
emission front than many newer cars, simply 'cause their owners look after
them properly....



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"Acrosticus" wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/local...682621,00.html

local politicians have
reservations about a directly elected mayor like London's "Red Ken" -
although the colour seems to have faded.


Faded? It's changed completely hasn't it? He's now green Ken pursuing a
Low Emissions Zone policy, which will mean the London to Brighton
Veteran Car Rally will never start from London again because none of
the eligible vehicles are built to Euro III standards!


Some people post utter rubbish! Please explain under what ruling this will
be


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