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www.waspies.net wrote:
Sorry Tunnelrat, but there are plenty of people who would love to do our
job, think that we are overpaid (not by industry standards anymore),


You are. Compare yourselves to medical staff , police etc. And don't
even bother with the standard issue "well thats up to them/they're
unions
etc" bull**** speech. You're overpaid. End.

Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are
draconian in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a
strike, I don't think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on
strike, but the RMT are a different kettle of fish and like wasting
their members money.


Something I've always wondered. If you lot down at LU find your jobs
so much hassle and stress that you always want to strike , why don't
you do what everyone else in the working population does when they
hate their jobs and bloody resign? Most people in my industry (IT)
usually move on within 2 - 3 years. Why can't you lot? There are only 2

reasons I can think of:

A) Your job is a cushy number and you all know it so you'll never leave

or

B) You're all too ****ing dim to get employment doing anything else.

Which is it?

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
www.waspies.net wrote:

Sorry Tunnelrat, but there are plenty of people who would love to do our
job, think that we are overpaid (not by industry standards anymore),



You are. Compare yourselves to medical staff , police etc. And don't
even bother with the standard issue "well thats up to them/they're
unions
etc" bull**** speech. You're overpaid. End.


Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are
draconian in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a
strike, I don't think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on
strike, but the RMT are a different kettle of fish and like wasting
their members money.



Something I've always wondered. If you lot down at LU find your jobs
so much hassle and stress that you always want to strike , why don't
you do what everyone else in the working population does when they
hate their jobs and bloody resign? Most people in my industry (IT)
usually move on within 2 - 3 years. Why can't you lot? There are only 2

reasons I can think of:

A) Your job is a cushy number and you all know it so you'll never leave

or

B) You're all too ****ing dim to get employment doing anything else.

Which is it?

B2003

BOLTAR GIVE US A KISSSSSSSSSS
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BOLTAR GIVE US A KISSSSSSSSSS

I'm just waiting for the day someone gives some striking
drivers a smack. And I'm not talking about the kissing kind.

B2003

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www.waspies.net wrote:
Sorry Tunnelrat, but there are plenty of people who would love to do our
job, think that we are overpaid (not by industry standards anymore),


You are. Compare yourselves to medical staff , police etc. And don't
even bother with the standard issue "well thats up to them/they're
unions
etc" bull**** speech. You're overpaid. End.


Can i ask what you have done to improve medical staff and police salaries.
As i have said before i have taken part in marches in support of fire
fighters and, going back, the miners and a good few in between. You would be
very welcome to join us in the future. Somehow i doubt we will see you.

Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are
draconian in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a
strike, I don't think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on
strike, but the RMT are a different kettle of fish and like wasting
their members money.


Something I've always wondered. If you lot down at LU find your jobs
so much hassle and stress that you always want to strike , why don't
you do what everyone else in the working population does when they
hate their jobs and bloody resign? Most people in my industry (IT)
usually move on within 2 - 3 years. Why can't you lot? There are only 2

reasons I can think of:

A) Your job is a cushy number and you all know it so you'll never leave

or

B) You're all too ****ing dim to get employment doing anything else.

Which is it?

B2003


A tube drivers options are rather limited seeing that there is only LU to
work for plus i dont suppose you would want to pay higher fares for all the
training that would have to be done. So thats a none starter.

So everyone that dosent like there jobs resigns. Thats so wrong its
laughable.

As for moving on every 2 to 3 years that sounds a bit sad to me. Still i
imagine your work mates breath a sigh of relieff that someone as adusive
and, later in this thread, violent as you has moved on.

Clyde



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Can i ask what you have done to improve medical staff and police salaries.

Nice try , but spinning the argument doesn't work.

As i have said before i have taken part in marches in support of fire
fighters and, going back, the miners and a good few in between. You would be


Yeah , right-on comrade! Up the revolution! What a hero you are.
LU drivers are stil overpaid no matter how many marches they go on to
try and ease their conscience.

very welcome to join us in the future. Somehow i doubt we will see you.


Because I actually just get on and do my job instead of moaning about
it.

A tube drivers options are rather limited seeing that there is only LU to
work for


True , apart from every single TOC in the country not to mention the
glasgow underground and the tyne and wear metro.

i dont suppose you would want to pay higher fares for all the
training that would have to be done. So thats a none starter


Not when I and everyone else is already having to fork out even
more to pay for you lot.

So everyone that dosent like there jobs resigns. Thats so wrong its
laughable.


Welcome to the 21st century you sad socialist dinosaur.

As for moving on every 2 to 3 years that sounds a bit sad to me.


Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do.
Other just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and
moan about how unfair life is. Pathetic.

B2003



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Can i ask what you have done to improve medical staff and police
salaries.


Nice try , but spinning the argument doesn't work.


No answer there then. I will answer it for you. You do nothing.

As i have said before i have taken part in marches in support of fire
fighters and, going back, the miners and a good few in between.


Yeah , right-on comrade! Up the revolution! What a hero you are.
LU drivers are stil overpaid no matter how many marches they go on to
try and ease their conscience.


Im not after a revolution, im not a hero, im not an LU driver. My conscience
is clear. I do go on marches, im happy to give some of my free time to a
cause worth fighting for. Thats as opposed to do nothing which appears to be
your way.


Because I actually just get on and do my job instead of moaning about
it.


Moaning appears to be a full time occupation for you.

A tube drivers options are rather limited seeing that there is only LU to
work for


True , apart from every single TOC in the country not to mention the
glasgow underground and the tyne and wear metro.


How many vacancies are there on all those companies then? Your advocating
the whole work force moves on. Thats just daft.

i dont suppose you would want to pay higher fares for all the
training that would have to be done. So thats a none starter


Not when I and everyone else is already having to fork out even
more to pay for you lot.


What lot?

So everyone that dosent like there jobs resigns. Thats so wrong its
laughable.


Welcome to the 21st century you sad socialist dinosaur.


No. Its welcome to B2003's view of the 21st century. An incorrect one
thankfully.

As for moving on every 2 to 3 years that sounds a bit sad to me.


Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do.
Other just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and
moan about how unfair life is. Pathetic.

B2003


Im very happy doing my job. ive been doing it for 22 years. Thats a concept
you wont be able to understand. As for moaning about how unfair life is
thats all ive read from you about how your life is being sabotaged by other
people.

Im proud to be a train driver, im proud to be a trade unionist. Thats
something else you wont be able to understand.

So, you can moan, groan, whinge, whine and threaten. Were here, were not
going away, so get used to it.

Kind regards
Clyde




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No answer there then. I will answer it for you. You do nothing.

Why should I? Not my problem. No one forces anyone to go into
any form of job in this country. If you chose to go into a job knowing
the pay and conditions don't bloody whinge about it.

Moaning appears to be a full time occupation for you.


Ah , the irony of that statement )

Im very happy doing my job. ive been doing it for 22 years. Thats a concept
you wont be able to understand.


I can understand it. You aspire to nothing and can't do anything else.
You're
quite happy to plod along doing the same old thing until you retire.
Nothing
wrong with that , but don't think that gives you some sort of
salt-of-the-earth
self righteousness. It doesn't.

Im proud to be a train driver, im proud to be a trade unionist. Thats
something else you wont be able to understand.


Sure I can. When you want a better deal you don't go out , expend a bit
effort and look for one yourself, far easier to blackmail your
employers
to give you a better deal with the threat of industrial action , like a
spoilt
teenager having a go at his parents Thats all the RMT is about anyway.

So, you can moan, groan, whinge, whine and threaten. Were here, were not
going away, so get used to it.


Really? Perhaps you should take a ride on the DLR sometime and play
spot the
driver.

B2003

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Boltar writes


Im very happy doing my job. ive been doing it for 22 years. Thats a concept
you wont be able to understand.


Im proud to be a train driver, im proud to be a trade unionist. Thats
something else you wont be able to understand.

You also won't understand that a given recognition isn't recognised by
any other operator.
Really? Perhaps you should take a ride on the DLR sometime and play
spot the
driver.

B2003

Perhaps you should. Or more likely you didn't know that all of the
DLR. conductors are qualified drivers incase of a failure. No that's
to silly, it's way above your intellect.
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No answer there then. I will answer it for you. You do nothing.


Why should I? Not my problem. No one forces anyone to go into
any form of job in this country. If you chose to go into a job knowing
the pay and conditions don't bloody whinge about it.



Moaning appears to be a full time occupation for you.


Ah , the irony of that statement )

Im very happy doing my job. ive been doing it for 22 years. Thats a
concept
you wont be able to understand.


I can understand it. You aspire to nothing and can't do anything else.
You're
quite happy to plod along doing the same old thing until you retire.
Nothing
wrong with that , but don't think that gives you some sort of
salt-of-the-earth
self righteousness. It doesn't.

Im proud to be a train driver, im proud to be a trade unionist. Thats
something else you wont be able to understand.


Sure I can. When you want a better deal you don't go out , expend a bit
effort and look for one yourself, far easier to blackmail your
employers
to give you a better deal with the threat of industrial action , like a
spoilt
teenager having a go at his parents Thats all the RMT is about anyway.

So, you can moan, groan, whinge, whine and threaten. Were here, were not
going away, so get used to it.


Really? Perhaps you should take a ride on the DLR sometime and play
spot the
driver.

B2003


Have you considered councilling, theres obviously something wrong with you.
You dont care about this group of people you dont care about that group of
people, i think this may well stem from a lack of self respect. There are
people out there able to help you.

Anyway enough said. I will leave you to rage on. Just one last thing, it
couldnt be that what really annoys you is that LU drivers [im not one, nor
am i in the RMT] earn more than you. Yes i reckon that could be it.

See you on the picket line brother.

Regards
Clyde


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In message .com,
Boltar writes
Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do. Other
just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and moan
about how unfair life is. Pathetic.

So a qualification in tube driving on a line in London is valid on the
Glasgow Underground or the Newcastle Underground? How thick you are,
how sad. How many times do you want a boot up the backside to realise
that you don't know what you're talking about? Maybe the middle of
next year might help. But I doubt it. I'm prepared to discuss it, if
you dare.
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