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Kev wrote:
There are absolutely no trains going either way through Vauxhall at the
moment, 15.55. There is one outbound Eurostar which has stook at
signals for about 10 minutes now.

kevin
I bet the people on the Eurostar that has been sat in Vauxhall for half
an hour now wished that they had gone on the plane. You know the ad, by
now you would be, well sitting in Vauxhall.

Kevin


how long is this due to be affected do you know?
According to SWT website its due a lightening strike on signal cabling so
your guess is probably as good as anyone's!

Paul wrote:
According to SWT website its due a lightening strike on signal
cabling

Ah, those lightning strikes. Can't get the staff, you know!

Paul wrote:
"MarchGDB" wrote in message
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"Kev" wrote in message
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Kev wrote:
There are absolutely no trains going either way through Vauxhall
at the moment, 15.55. There is one outbound Eurostar which has
stook at signals for about 10 minutes now.

kevin
I bet the people on the Eurostar that has been sat in Vauxhall
for half an hour now wished that they had gone on the plane. You
know the ad, by now you would be, well sitting in Vauxhall.

Kevin


how long is this due to be affected do you know?
According to SWT website its due a lightening strike on signal
cabling so your guess is probably as good as anyone's!

TfL at 17:37 are advising passengers to travel to Clapham Junction,
presumably from Victoria. No trains Waterloo-Clapham Junction.
Waterloo & City Line also suspended due to power failure after lightning
strike. Met & Jubilee suffering minor delays due to lightning strike at
Finchley Road.

Well, we do need the rain!
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

If the weather hadn't been privitised we'd never have had the Lightning,
Bloody Thatcher.

Richard J. wrote:
Paul wrote:
"MarchGDB" wrote in message
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"Kev" wrote in message
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Kev wrote:
There are absolutely no trains going either way through Vauxhall
at the moment, 15.55. There is one outbound Eurostar which has
stook at signals for about 10 minutes now.

kevin
I bet the people on the Eurostar that has been sat in Vauxhall
for half an hour now wished that they had gone on the plane. You
know the ad, by now you would be, well sitting in Vauxhall.

Kevin


how long is this due to be affected do you know?
According to SWT website its due a lightening strike on signal
cabling so your guess is probably as good as anyone's!

TfL at 17:37 are advising passengers to travel to Clapham Junction,
presumably from Victoria. No trains Waterloo-Clapham Junction.
Waterloo & City Line also suspended due to power failure after lightning
strike. Met & Jubilee suffering minor delays due to lightning strike at
Finchley Road.

Well, we do need the rain!
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)



I arrived at Waterloo today at about 1840. Trains about ten minutes
late, but no spectacular problems.

"MIG" wrote in message
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I arrived at Waterloo today at about 1840. Trains about ten minutes
late, but no spectacular problems.

It was starting to be cleared by then but it was obvious from the Southern
side something was screwed as the CIS displays at Clapham were kaputt and
there were crowds lining the SWT platforms ten deep.

Mind you Victoria had its own problems, after standing for fifteen minutes
past departure time waiting for someone to come and unlock the doors on the
East Grinstead service, the driver failed to show and a couple of thousand
very cheesed off looking passengers were forced to cram onto anything
heading to East Croydon.

The Eastbourne and Horsham services got suddenly very cosy!

Regards
John M Upton

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TfL at 17:37 are advising passengers to travel to Clapham Junction,
presumably from Victoria. No trains Waterloo-Clapham Junction.
Waterloo & City Line also suspended due to power failure after lightning
strike. Met & Jubilee suffering minor delays due to lightning strike at
Finchley Road.

I arrived at Waterloo today at about 1840. Trains about ten minutes
late, but no spectacular problems.

I arrived at Bank at around 18:30, and the whiteboard advised SWT
passengers to travel via tube to Wimbledon or Richmond. Apparently
things had started moving again at 18:07 though, and I got to stand on
the platform at Wimbledon an hour later watching trains that I could
have caught had the information been up to date, or even accurately
mentioning that Clapham Junction was still open, running straight
through.

It got me thinking, wouldn't it be a good investment by TFL to replace
all those whiteboards with centrally controlled electronic signboards
that do not rely on chinese whispers for the information to get to the
station staff, and do not rely on staff, who are probably overworked by
this stage answering questions from desparate commuters, having the
time to keep them up to date? I have seen some electronic versions so
maybe this is already happening, but I'm not sure if they're centrally
controlled.

On 10 Mar 2006 06:12:29 -0800, wrote:



I arrived at Bank at around 18:30, and the whiteboard advised SWT
passengers to travel via tube to Wimbledon or Richmond. Apparently
things had started moving again at 18:07 though, and I got to stand on
the platform at Wimbledon an hour later watching trains that I could
have caught had the information been up to date, or even accurately
mentioning that Clapham Junction was still open, running straight
through.

It got me thinking, wouldn't it be a good investment by TFL to replace
all those whiteboards with centrally controlled electronic signboards
that do not rely on chinese whispers for the information to get to the
station staff, and do not rely on staff, who are probably overworked by
this stage answering questions from desparate commuters, having the
time to keep them up to date? I have seen some electronic versions so
maybe this is already happening, but I'm not sure if they're centrally
controlled.

And what happens when the centrally controlled electronic system gets
put out of action by some power failure or control malfunction.
Nip up to the nearest officeworld to buy up the stock of
whiteboards I suppose.

G.Harman

wrote:
TfL at 17:37 are advising passengers to travel to Clapham Junction,
presumably from Victoria. No trains Waterloo-Clapham Junction.
Waterloo & City Line also suspended due to power failure after lightning
strike. Met & Jubilee suffering minor delays due to lightning strike at
Finchley Road.

I arrived at Waterloo today at about 1840. Trains about ten minutes
late, but no spectacular problems.

I arrived at Bank at around 18:30, and the whiteboard advised SWT
passengers to travel via tube to Wimbledon or Richmond. Apparently
things had started moving again at 18:07 though, and I got to stand on
the platform at Wimbledon an hour later watching trains that I could
have caught had the information been up to date, or even accurately
mentioning that Clapham Junction was still open, running straight
through.

It got me thinking, wouldn't it be a good investment by TFL to replace
all those whiteboards with centrally controlled electronic signboards
that do not rely on chinese whispers for the information to get to the
station staff, and do not rely on staff, who are probably overworked by
this stage answering questions from desparate commuters, having the
time to keep them up to date? I have seen some electronic versions so
maybe this is already happening, but I'm not sure if they're centrally
controlled.



Absolutely not, sorry. If information is provided by a person, with a
whiteboard marker or whatever, at least it's information. The garbage
spewed out by bug-ridden computer systems is not information. It's
just mindless response to various inputs whose complexities and
implications are not adequately predicted in the programs.

MIG wrote:
wrote:

It got me thinking, wouldn't it be a good investment by TFL to
replace all those whiteboards with centrally controlled electronic
signboards that do not rely on chinese whispers for the
information to get to the station staff, and do not rely on staff,
who are probably overworked by this stage answering questions from
desparate commuters, having the time to keep them up to date? I
have seen some electronic versions so maybe this is already
happening, but I'm not sure if they're centrally controlled.

Absolutely not, sorry. If information is provided by a person,
with a whiteboard marker or whatever, at least it's information.
The garbage spewed out by bug-ridden computer systems is not
information. It's just mindless response to various inputs whose
complexities and implications are not adequately predicted in the
programs.

"Centrally controlled" doesn't have to mean that the information is
computer-generated. The current system relies on someone centrally
generating information (e.g. that SWT trains had started running again
from Waterloo, in this example) and passing it out by whatever means to
stations, whose staff then update whiteboards etc. If the transmission
could be direct to electronic displays in the stations, it would be more
up-to-date.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)