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Some Bendibuses (including some or all on routes 29 and 73) have a
yellow triangle sign on the rear with a black bicycle with an X

across it.

a) What is it supposed to mean?


Fighter planes used to do the same thing in WW II, to show the number
of German or Japanese bombers that they had accounted for.

I've never seen a bus with more than two signs.

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Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
Some Bendibuses (including some or all on routes 29 and 73) have a
yellow triangle sign on the rear with a black bicycle with an X across it.

a) What is it supposed to mean?

b) Why this anti-bike attitude from TfL?


A pretty good thread, especially your repeated insistence that road
transport be held to the same safety standard as the railways; but, and
especially in light of the latter, you really should have xposted to
uk.railway, uk.rec.cycling, and uk.transport, for maximum... er...
'effect'.

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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Larry Lard wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

Some Bendibuses (including some or all on routes 29 and 73) have a
yellow triangle sign on the rear with a black bicycle with an X across it.

a) What is it supposed to mean?

b) Why this anti-bike attitude from TfL?


A pretty good thread, especially your repeated insistence that road
transport be held to the same safety standard as the railways; but, and
especially in light of the latter, you really should have xposted to
uk.railway, uk.rec.cycling, and uk.transport, for maximum... er...
'effect'.


You seem to have forgotten uk.rec.driving - a key component in a proper
transport flamewar. Indeed, urd and urc go together like hydrazine and
nitrogen tet.

tom

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"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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Some Bendibuses (including some or all on routes 29 and 73) have a
yellow triangle sign on the rear with a black bicycle with an X across it.

a) What is it supposed to mean?


Don't overtake on the left, as you'll end up either:
a) dead, under the bus
b) dead, under 20 disembarking bus passengers

b) Why this anti-bike attitude from TfL?


It's not anti-bike. It's anti-getting-people-killed-for-no-reason.

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Colin Rosenstiel ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Some Bendibuses (including some or all on routes 29 and 73) have a
yellow triangle sign on the rear with a black bicycle with an X
across it.


a) What is it supposed to mean?


Don't overtake on the left, as you'll end up either:
a) dead, under the bus
b) dead, under 20 disembarking bus passengers


b) Why this anti-bike attitude from TfL?


It's not anti-bike. It's anti-getting-people-killed-for-no-reason.


I don;t think you understand cycling.


Quite obviously we don't understand it in the same way as you do.

If that "understanding" involves a perceived right to go wherever the ****
you want because you're in the right, then I don't think I want to.

May I recommend www.highwaycode.gov.uk
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Default Anti-bike signs on Bendibuses

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In a wide main road like Euston Road, a bendi-bus pulls in regardless of
cyclists riding where they should, close to the kerb.


So long as it doesn't side-swipe them in doing so, I fail to see the
problem. Buses stop in bus stops. This is to be expected, and it
doesn't do any harm for other road users to assist them in doing so.

They are then
almost impossible to pass safely.


It is impossible to pass a stopped or left-turning bus (of any type)
safely on the left. There is always a significant chance of it
disgorging passengers or turning onto you. The right is the correct
place to pass, if appropriate. If the driver pulls out onto you while
doing that, he is an idiot.

The sign on the bus is only reinforcing that point.

I suggest you try it sometime instead
of pontificating.


I have done on a few occasions, and (while it didn't involve bendies)
spent a few years regularly cycling on Oxford Road in Manchester, which
has rather more buses than the Euston Road. I was only knocked into
once by a bus that pulled in a bit soon in that time; he was duly
informed of his error.

Neil

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Colin Rosenstiel ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

In a wide main road like Euston Road, a bendi-bus pulls in regardless of
cyclists riding where they should, close to the kerb.


If the bus is stopping immediately after passing a cyclist, then that's a
lack of planning on the driver's part - but it does NOT mean the cyclist
should go past the bus on the left.

If the bus is stationary when the cyclist reaches it, then that's even more
of a reason not to pass it on the left.

Oh, and cyclists shouldn't be riding "close to the kerb". Do a bit of
research on the primary riding position.

They are then almost impossible to pass safely.


Not at all. Go past on the right.

I suggest you try it sometime instead of pontificating.


Try going past a stationary vehicle on the left on a bike? No thanks, I
like life too much.
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