"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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In article ,
(Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
Everyone seems to have someone else to blame for the current mess!

If the government is vetoing implementing it, how do you explain the
requirements for the South West Trains franchise?

Things are moving now towards Oyster becoming standards-compliant, at
least I think that's why the line has changed.

Also, haven't SWT invested more on barriers than most TOCs?

IIRC the wording in the document is along the lines of 'the Secretary of
State has now been convinced of the benefits of Oyster ticketing'.

It sounds more like he has given up waiting for the 'standards compliant'
solution, and is allowing Oyster, in line with his commitment to hand more
power over London NR services to TfL.

However, the requirement is (initially at least) restricted to Greater
London stations, so the DoT may still be hoping that a multi-vendor system
comes to the fore at a later date for outside of Greater London.

On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:41 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

Yes but the main issue is the train companies' decision not to
participate in the Oyster scheme except to the barest extent
necessary.

Correction: The main issue is the government's refusal to allow the
train companies to participate in the Oyster scheme except to the barest
extent necessary (because it is not standards-compliant).

What would it take to make Oyster compliant with the new standards?
Would it only require changes to the central systems, would validators
also need to be replaced, or would all Oyster cards need to be
recalled and reissued?

asdf wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:41 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

Yes but the main issue is the train companies' decision not to
participate in the Oyster scheme except to the barest extent
necessary.

Correction: The main issue is the government's refusal to allow the
train companies to participate in the Oyster scheme except to the barest
extent necessary (because it is not standards-compliant).

What would it take to make Oyster compliant with the new standards?
Would it only require changes to the central systems, would validators
also need to be replaced, or would all Oyster cards need to be
recalled and reissued?

The first step would be for TfL to actually purchase the Oyster system
- at the moment it is owned by the consortium that developed it. I have
read implications in some places that this non-TfL ownership of Oyster
was a very potent excuse for some TOCs to shun it.

In article . 145,
Tristán White wrote:
Are there barriers at Seven Kings for a PAYG?

Stratford - Seven Kings is not a PAYG area. You can use PAYG
on the Tube and very few NR trains (Straford to Liverpool Street;
some bits of the NLL south of Stratford; Walthamstow to Liverpool
Street are the only bits east of the City, IIRC).

If not, would it be cheaper to use my Oyster PAYG for the buses to and from
Stratford, and get a cheap-day return to Seven Kings, or would it be
cheaper to get a paper travelcard for zones 2-6 from the corner shop before
getting on any buses?

www.nationalrail.co.uk has fare details; I think a standard day single
from Stratford to Seven Kings is 1.80 (can't see a CDR fare).




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On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:31:09 +0000 (UTC), Mike Bristow
wrote:

In article . 145,
Tristán White wrote:
Are there barriers at Seven Kings for a PAYG?

Stratford - Seven Kings is not a PAYG area. You can use PAYG
on the Tube and very few NR trains (Straford to Liverpool Street;
some bits of the NLL south of Stratford; Walthamstow to Liverpool
Street are the only bits east of the City, IIRC).

PAYG is also valid Liv St - Tottenham Hale / Seven Sisters. This
parallels the validity to Walthamstow Central as all the links are Liv
St to the nearest Victoria Line interchange.

If not, would it be cheaper to use my Oyster PAYG for the buses to and from
Stratford, and get a cheap-day return to Seven Kings, or would it be
cheaper to get a paper travelcard for zones 2-6 from the corner shop before
getting on any buses?

www.nationalrail.co.uk has fare details; I think a standard day single
from Stratford to Seven Kings is 1.80 (can't see a CDR fare).

You need to input a return journey search to get return fares to appear.
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Paul C


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