Paul Corfield wrote:

(snip)
TfL do not advertise bad news or cuts to bus services.

Why not? Any idea whose decision it was to neglect their duty to keep
the public informed?

I can assure you that there is no indication whatsoever that it is a
temporary withdrawal. The special buses that are required to run the
service have been sent away from London for other duties within First
Group.

Why does it require special buses?

--
Aidan Stanger
http://www.bettercrossrail.co.uk

"Aidan Stanger" wrote in message
...
Paul Corfield wrote:

(snip)
TfL do not advertise bad news or cuts to bus services.

Why not? Any idea whose decision it was to neglect their duty to
keep
the public informed?

I can assure you that there is no indication whatsoever that it is
a
temporary withdrawal. The special buses that are required to run
the
service have been sent away from London for other duties within
First
Group.

Why does it require special buses?


Because "normal" buses were considered "too big" for the Rotherhithe
Tunnel.

On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 21:42:56 +0930, (Aidan Stanger)
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

(snip)
TfL do not advertise bad news or cuts to bus services.

Why not? Any idea whose decision it was to neglect their duty to keep
the public informed?

I am only speaking from my knowledge of how the network has changed and
how services have been cut. There has been no clear communication about
those events while any improvement no matter how small is blasted from
the rooftops. I find the apparent policy to be inconsistent but then
the whole policy about communicating service changes is appalling in my
view. There is little information provided other than via the web and I
(and many other people) don't have any means of contacting the web when
I am on the bus or at the bus stop.

I can assure you that there is no indication whatsoever that it is a
temporary withdrawal. The special buses that are required to run the
service have been sent away from London for other duties within First
Group.

Why does it require special buses?

There are width restrictions at both entrances. There are also very
tight clearances where there the tunnel changes direction.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield wrote:
There are width restrictions at both entrances [to the Rotherhithe Tunnel].
There are also very tight clearances where there the tunnel changes direction.

This is something that's always puzzled me - why does the Rotherhithe
Tunnel change direction? Surely, when it was being built, it would
have been cheaper and easier to just go in a straight line? Yet it
twists and turns constantly.

Patrick

In message . com,
writes

This is something that's always puzzled me - why does the Rotherhithe
Tunnel change direction?

To stop horses bolting ...

Surely, when it was being built, it would
have been cheaper and easier to just go in a straight line?

It was designed primarily with horse-drawn vehicles in mind
(construction started in 1904). These needed long, gentle inclines
either side, and the only space to build such long approaches and avoid
the many docks in the area was almost parallel to the river (even so a
lot of house demolition was necessary). They were constructed using the
relatively cheap cut-and-cover system.

Once down to final depth, the central part of the tunnel (the only part
needing expensive boring) crosses the river more directly, although
still a little obliquely, because the object was to connect the docks on
the south side of the river with those a little further downstream on
the northern side. The result is the characteristic zig-zag of the
tunnel.

The sharp bends wouldn't have been a problem for horse-drawn vehicles,
of course - in fact, they were deliberate because they prevented horses
seeing the light at the other end of the tunnel too soon and thus
possibly bolting.

--
Paul Terry

In article . com,
() wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
There are width restrictions at both entrances [to the
Rotherhithe Tunnel].
There are also very tight clearances where there the tunnel
changes direction.

This is something that's always puzzled me - why does the
Rotherhithe Tunnel change direction? Surely, when it was being built,
it would have been cheaper and easier to just go in a straight line?
Yet it twists and turns constantly.

I thought there were just two turns, from the approaches that are
closely parallel to the river to and from the stretch under the river.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:

This is something that's always puzzled me - why does the Rotherhithe
Tunnel change direction? Surely, when it was being built, it would
have been cheaper and easier to just go in a straight line? Yet it
twists and turns constantly.

The one that twists and turns constantly is the Blackwall northbound.