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I live in the TfL wasteland of extreme south-east London, in Crayford.
I currently drive to work a couple of miles away most days, occasionally walking (it's a horrible walk which involves going up a huge hill but I like to make an effort from time to time!). My journey to work could easily be done by bus, but knowing how much cheaper it is to run my tiny car (about 40-50p/day, all told) than to get the bus (£1.80/day) never makes this idea seem all that appealing. Recently though I was thinking that it would do me good to go by bus every day as the walks to and from the bus stops would add up to more than the occasional walking at the moment, and I could read the paper on the bus, which would be more enjoyable than driving - plus there are the obvious environmental benefits of taking my car off the rush-hour roads. Anyway, what would really suit my needs would be a Zone 6 only (or Zones 5-6) bus pass, but it seems this doesn't exist - it's all of London or nothing for the buses, meaning an outlay of £540, which could well be more than I'd spend on the buses in a year anyway! I therefore began wondering about an alternative plan, which would be to get a Zones 5-6 Travelcard, for £560, i.e. basically the same as a bus pass, but valid on other transport methods, which around here just means National Rail. (I seem to recall reading on this group recently that even a limited travelcard like this would be valid on all buses anywhere in London, so this really does seem to be a case of paying just £20 more for access to Zones 5-6 of trains.) The advantage of this would be that on the numerous occasions each year when I currently buy an off-peak one-day all zones travelcard, I could presumably just buy a Zones 1-4 one instead, saving me, at current prices, 90p a time. (I assume that 5-6 plus 1-4 equals 1-6, doesn't it?) I also assume that this would save me something on a National Rail Return to London, e.g. I guess I would only have to pay for Sidcup (which is the last station I'd pass through in Zone 5 - or would it be New Eltham, the first station I would reach in Zone 4?) to London return rather than Crayford to London. This looks like it would cost £4.00 rather than £5.10, so that would give even more of a saving per trip. So I guess what I'm really asking here is: - Does all this sound like an idea that would work and would be worthwhile? - Could it cause hassle, for instance when buying tickets for zones 1-4 or Sidcup to London while at a Zone 6 NR station? - Are there any technical issues related to having a Zones 5-6 travelcard on an Oyster when my local station can't handle Oyster very well (they can't issue them for instance)? I think a nearby newsagent can do most Oyster things, but I wouldn't want to go there, for instance, if I was just going for a train ride to London, since the newsagent is a bit of a walk past the station from my home. - Does anyone have any other comments about all this, or better ideas? Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can offer, Paul |
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