Paul Oter wrote:
According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006", from
that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day
Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no
longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate]
between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday. In addition to this Network
AwayBreaks and Saver tickets are not valid on services which depart
from these services between 1730 and 1830 Monday to Friday."

These restrictions apply to passengers returning from a variety of
inner London stations to stations between Potters Bar to Waterbeach
inclusive. The leaflet explicitly states that passengers returning to
Ely and points north thereof are not affected.

So what's to stop Cambridge travellers buying an Ely-London cheap day
return and using that? Does the small print prevent this?

Sam

In message . com, at
02:55:48 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Sam Holloway
remarked:
According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006", from
that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day
Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no
longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate]
between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday. In addition to this Network
AwayBreaks and Saver tickets are not valid on services which depart
from these services between 1730 and 1830 Monday to Friday."

These restrictions apply to passengers returning from a variety of
inner London stations to stations between Potters Bar to Waterbeach
inclusive. The leaflet explicitly states that passengers returning to
Ely and points north thereof are not affected.

So what's to stop Cambridge travellers buying an Ely-London cheap day
return and using that? Does the small print prevent this?

Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are they
allowed on the return half of a CDR?)

It's never been clear whether or not joining at Cambridge in the morning
is also a BOJ or not.

But without gates [yet] or a ticket check at Cambridge, you'd get away
with it.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are they
allowed on the return half of a CDR?)

I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey

C! wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are they
allowed on the return half of a CDR?)

I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey

A house in Cambridge. Knock at door, circa 10pm
"Excuse me, sir, but it seems that you have abandoned your journey.
Please come with us, so we can put you on a train to Ely."

Sam

In message .com, at
04:21:56 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Sam Holloway
remarked:
I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey

A house in Cambridge. Knock at door, circa 10pm
"Excuse me, sir, but it seems that you have abandoned your journey.
Please come with us, so we can put you on a train to Ely."

Airlines have attempted to surcharge people who buy a cheaper ticket
than only use part of it (they regard it as fraud). And they are usually
quite fierce about cancelling the whole ticket if you fail to turn up at
the origin [eg failing to do London-Paris on a London-Paris-New York
ticket.]

--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:

In message .com, at
04:21:56 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Sam Holloway
remarked:
I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey

A house in Cambridge. Knock at door, circa 10pm
"Excuse me, sir, but it seems that you have abandoned your journey.
Please come with us, so we can put you on a train to Ely."

Airlines have attempted to surcharge people who buy a cheaper ticket
than only use part of it (they regard it as fraud). And they are usually
quite fierce about cancelling the whole ticket if you fail to turn up at
the origin [eg failing to do London-Paris on a London-Paris-New York
ticket.]

The only workaround appears to be to actually fly to the real origin on a
separate ticket. It is still much cheaper to do so for some airlines,
though.

--
Stewart Brodie

In message gemini.j0g0ne000bswf01uc.stewart.brodie@ntlworld. com, at
14:33:28 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Stewart Brodie
remarked:
Airlines have attempted to surcharge people who buy a cheaper ticket
than only use part of it (they regard it as fraud). And they are usually
quite fierce about cancelling the whole ticket if you fail to turn up at
the origin [eg failing to do London-Paris on a London-Paris-New York
ticket.]

The only workaround appears to be to actually fly to the real origin on a
separate ticket. It is still much cheaper to do so for some airlines,
though.

Maybe we'll see people catching a train to Ely, just to come back on an
offpeak travelcard to London, then return as far as Cambridge in the
evening peak?
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry
Airlines have attempted to surcharge people who buy a cheaper ticket
than only use part of it (they regard it as fraud). [...]

The key word being 'attempted'. I know people who made 'open jaw'
journeys like that on routes which don't offer sane one-way prices,
but don't know of any successful surcharge. It would be a bit stupid
to penalise one's customers for buying more than they use, as the
seat can be sold again last-minute if there's still demand.

In message .com, at
04:17:05 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, C! remarked:
Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are they
allowed on the return half of a CDR?)

I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey

I think I'd need to see the actual rule in black and white before
commenting further. It's possible that you can leave the station freely,
and that the only restriction is on re-entering; but what do the words
say?
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:

In message .com,
at 04:17:05 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, C!
remarked:
Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are
they allowed on the return half of a CDR?)

I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey
which is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if
you left, came back, and continued the journey

I think I'd need to see the actual rule in black and white before
commenting further.

That's breaking the spirit of cam.*, where everyone comments
knowledgeably on everything :-)

--
Alan

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