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ups.com... Chris Read wrote: In simple terms, the power of the engine and efficiency of the brakes seem light years removed from the RM. Why, Chris, do you regard this as an improvement? F=MA. Marc. |
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oups.com... Dave Newt wrote: wrote: Chris Read wrote: In simple terms, the power of the engine and efficiency of the brakes seem light years removed from the RM. Why, Chris, do you regard this as an improvement? I'm guessing becuase of reasons stated in the previous 2 sentences that you chose to snip: "2. They make faster progress than the RM when on the move. This has surprised me, but would anyone deny it is true? " The reason I asked the question was, with the appalling standard of driving of so many London bus drivers, who regard emergency braking and Grand Prix-style accelerating as mandatory when stopping or starting, the lesser braking / acceleration offered the better. If you've ever been on a full RM trying to get up a hill from a standing start, you'd know why having a more powerful engine is a good idea. Also, when traffic starts to move off on a quickly-timed traffic signal, RMs would have a nasty habit of crawling just enough to get to the light just after it turned. Bendy busses seem to be able to accelerate a great deal better, and still not throw people off their feet. And if you're a pedestrian crossing the street, the improved brakes certainly takes the edge off the red menace. Marc. |
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ups.com... Richard M Willis wrote: "Jonathan Morris" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: The reason I asked the question was, with the appalling standard of driving of so many London bus drivers, who regard emergency braking and Grand Prix-style accelerating as mandatory when stopping or starting, Ah, so you've used the 63 then! A service with drivers that seem so sick of their job, that throwing people around is the only thing that gives them job satisfaction! I'd rather have a lunatic driver than one who waits until every last persun has sat down before starting off. I hope and pray that you're not a bus driver! Why should the public (some of whom are old and infirm) be subjected to violent acceleration and braking? It is precisely BECAUSE of such inconsiderate driving that I will not get up to move to the door of the bus UNTIL the bus is stationary, and I don't care how much bell-ringing I have to do to enure the door is still open by the time I get there. Why *is* it that when I get up to let an OAP on one of the priority seats, they insist on walking all the way to the back of the (almost empty) bus, taking about 3min to do so ? A slight exaggeration methinks. And, I have yet to meet the bus driver who dies not zoom off the very moment the doors are closed, whatever the state of passengers' movements. You must have some remarkably civilised drivers where you are if they even notice whether everyone is seated before they move off! If it's an almost empty bus, why do you use the priority seat in the first place? I always go upstairs and leave as much place as possible for those unable to use the stairs. Similarly with people who run along the platform to get on the train at a door distant from the one that they're near. Possibly they are doing so to get away from you (sorry, couldn't resist that one: no offence intended!) So you'd go to the top of an almost-empty bus, and remain seated until the bus comes to your stop, THEN get up and walk all the way off? Genius. Richard [in SG19] Marc. |
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Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
[RMs] Try using one in a wheelchair, and then let us know just how accessible it is. Are you aware that only 5% of people with disabilities are wheelchair users? True, but I suspect they're also not easy to use if you have trouble standing, climbing, gripping onto things or seeing. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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