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June 27th 06, 04:58 PM
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St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
Ned Carlson wrote: wrote: Where there is some discussion is if the given name already ends with S. Eg JAMES'S PALACE or JAMES' PALACE But never JAMES PALACE Can't agree on that. It's a palace or court named for St. James, not possessed by St. James. Apostrophe indicates possession. Ambassadors to Britain are appointed to the Court of Saint James, not Saint James' Court. However, the official royal website calls the palace, St. James's Palace. Sorry, Ned, but if your analogy were correct, then St. Paul's Cathedral would be St. Pauls Cathedral and, to go right back to the original subject of this thread, the woods concerned were no more possessed by St. John than the Palace possessed by St. James or the Cathedral possessed by St. Paul! In this sense, that the wood / street / catheadral is named after someone, these are possessive nouns. Sir Edmund Halley hardly possessed the comet that is named after him, called Halley's Comet! The fact that Ambassadors are appointed to the Court of St. James is immaterial. That just happens to be the way it's written. Equally gramatically correct (although not used, simply by tradition, not because it's gramatically incorrect) would be "Ambassador to St. James' Court". The irony is that St. James was supposedly buried in Compostela, Spain, and is one of the patron saints of Spain. In Spanish, he has a special name, "Santiago". You'd think after defeating the Spanish Armada, the royal house might have thought about renaming the palace, huh? Interesting! -- Ned Carlson SW side of Chicago, USA www.tubezone.net Marc. |
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