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Richard Rundle wrote:
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Richard Rundle wrote:

want to look at British Standard BS7666.

Thank you. I did a Google search on "British Standard BS7666".
It returned some excellent information about UK Mailing Address
structures. I noted the absence of punctuation. However, I
didn't notice anything directly relating to street name sign
posting. Maybe I need to dig a little deeper.

This was great information.


It's more to do with geographic address than postal addresses

Indeed, that was apparent. This standard looks as if it could be a
real help in real estate transactions. I am thinking in terms of
both statutory bodies and real estate agents.

Some of the elements (fields) laid out in the standard are very
similar to those required in a UK mailing address. The odd one is
were a unitary authority may be required instead of a County. Then,
again the use of counties in UK addresses is unusual compared with
other territories and inconsistent. E.g. So many postal towns now
longer need to be qualified by a county.

*No* UK postal addresses now need the county to be included. I find it
irritating when websites ask for your address with the county as a
mandatory field. Many of them will not accept an address in the form
123 Xyz Road, London, [postcode]. You are forced either to enter London
twice or to insert an unnecessary district name such as Acton in place
of the town name.
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Richard J. wrote:
wrote:
Richard Rundle wrote:
wrote in message
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Richard Rundle wrote:

want to look at British Standard BS7666.

Thank you. I did a Google search on "British Standard BS7666".
It returned some excellent information about UK Mailing Address
structures. I noted the absence of punctuation. However, I
didn't notice anything directly relating to street name sign
posting. Maybe I need to dig a little deeper.

This was great information.


It's more to do with geographic address than postal addresses

Indeed, that was apparent. This standard looks as if it could be a
real help in real estate transactions. I am thinking in terms of
both statutory bodies and real estate agents.

Some of the elements (fields) laid out in the standard are very
similar to those required in a UK mailing address. The odd one is
were a unitary authority may be required instead of a County. Then,
again the use of counties in UK addresses is unusual compared with
other territories and inconsistent. E.g. So many postal towns now
longer need to be qualified by a county.

*No* UK postal addresses now need the county to be included. I find it
irritating when websites ask for your address with the county as a
mandatory field. Many of them will not accept an address in the form
123 Xyz Road, London, [postcode]. You are forced either to enter London
twice or to insert an unnecessary district name such as Acton in place
of the town name.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Which County is BRISTOL in these days? And, is it EDINBURGH Midlothian
(the old county) or EDINBURGH Lothian (the new region)?What happened to
those exceptions like MILTON KEYNES?

Richard J. wrote:
....
*No* UK postal addresses now need the county to be included. I find it
irritating when websites ask for your address with the county as a
mandatory field.

I think for somebody in the Netherlands it is always much more irritating.
Provinces are almost never mentioned in an address, and that is already the
case since the postal service started.
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home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; http://www.cwi.nl/~dik/

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Dik T. Winter wrote:

I think for somebody in the Netherlands it is always much more irritating.
Provinces are almost never mentioned in an address

Provinces (two-letter "car plate" codes) were always used in italian
addresses except when writing to the province capital. Now most s/w
insists on having them in this case too.

Note that the original postcodes had a 1:1 mapping with provinces. The
first two digits corresponded to the province, next 3 digits = 100 for
the capital if a small place, 1nn for a capital with post zones, 0nn for
other places if not small, 0n0 for places served by a single sorting
office.

Nowadays there are more than 100 provinces so this correspondence has
broken down.

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"Adrian Auer-Hudson, MIMIS" wrote in message

Which County is BRISTOL in these days? And, is it EDINBURGH Midlothian
(the old county) or EDINBURGH Lothian (the new region)?What happened to
those exceptions like MILTON KEYNES?

Counties are a historical oddity. Just addressing an envelope to
...... Bristol BSx xxx is sufficient.

In fact, the conurbation of Bristol might spread across multiple
counties. I don't know.

Richard [in SG19]



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Richard M Willis wrote:
"Adrian Auer-Hudson, MIMIS" wrote in message

Which County is BRISTOL in these days? And, is it EDINBURGH Midlothian
(the old county) or EDINBURGH Lothian (the new region)?What happened to
those exceptions like MILTON KEYNES?

Counties are a historical oddity. Just addressing an envelope to
..... Bristol BSx xxx is sufficient.

In fact, the conurbation of Bristol might spread across multiple
counties. I don't know.

Richard [in SG19]



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Bristol was part in Gloucestershire and part in Somerset. This may
have been unique. It was certainly unusual. For a time it was in Avon.
Now Bristol seems to be a County.

Adrian.

On 30 Jun 2006 10:42:51 -0700, wrote:


Richard M Willis wrote:
"Adrian Auer-Hudson, MIMIS" wrote in message

Which County is BRISTOL in these days? And, is it EDINBURGH Midlothian
(the old county) or EDINBURGH Lothian (the new region)?What happened to
those exceptions like MILTON KEYNES?

Counties are a historical oddity. Just addressing an envelope to
..... Bristol BSx xxx is sufficient.

In fact, the conurbation of Bristol might spread across multiple
counties. I don't know.


Bristol was part in Gloucestershire and part in Somerset.

That applies to what is now Bristol but IIRC it was originally all on
the Gloucestershire side of the river, the south side (Bedminster and
Knowle ?) being part of the town/conurbation but not of the actual
city, being merely bits of Somerset.

This may
have been unique. It was certainly unusual. For a time it was in Avon.
Now Bristol seems to be a County.

It was previously (pre-*von) "City and County of" but IMU no local
authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as
a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of
officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.
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Charles Ellson wrote:
On 30 Jun 2006 10:42:51 -0700, wrote:

IMU no local
authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as
a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of
officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.
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Isn't the Isle of Wight a County devoid of subsidiary components?

Adrian.

"Charles Ellson" wrote
It [Bristol] was previously (pre-*von) "City and County of" but IMU no
local
authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as
a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of
officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so.

Clive Feather pointed out in an earlier thread that some (all?) unitary
authorities are defined as counties in the statutory instruments covering
their creation, but I think you are correct if you mean that they are not
regarded as counties by most people - except perhaps for one or two special
cases (like Bristol?) Conversely, some counties (e.g. the metropolitan
counties) seem to exist even though they have no council.

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e (Richard M Willis) wrote:

"Adrian Auer-Hudson, MIMIS" wrote in
message

Which County is BRISTOL in these days? And, is it EDINBURGH
Midlothian (the old county) or EDINBURGH Lothian (the new
region)? What happened to those exceptions like MILTON KEYNES?

Counties are a historical oddity. Just addressing an envelope to
..... Bristol BSx xxx is sufficient.

In fact, the conurbation of Bristol might spread across multiple
counties. I don't know.

Bristol has long (as in long before Avon) been a City and County.

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Colin Rosenstiel