wrote:

MIG wrote:

Great Portland Street to Regent Street, similarly close.

It is Regent's Park. Marylebone Road/Euston Road needs some subway
station rationalization. There are so many missed interchange
opportunities.

One interchange that was, and maybe yet to come back is Primrose Hill
and Chalk Farm. In fact they were so close it is a wonder they were
never made into and interchange.


I'd suggest Walton and Rice Lane (nee' Preston Road) on the Merseyrail
Northern Line; the stations are very close to each other (closer
than Garston and Allerton were before Liverpool South Parkway, I
reckon). They could easily be made into one interchange station with a
couple of footbridges and paths, I reckon -- the Kirkby branch and
Ormskirk branch platforms wouldn't be much further apart than (say)
getting across the Shipley triangle!

(Were they ever one station?)

pete
--
"That is enigmatic. That is textbook enigmatic..." - Dr Who
"There's no room for enigmas in built-up areas." - N Blackwell

wrote:

MIG wrote:

Great Portland Street to Regent Street, similarly close.

It is Regent's Park. Marylebone Road/Euston Road needs some subway
station rationalization. There are so many missed interchange
opportunities.

One interchange that was, and maybe yet to come back is Primrose Hill
and Chalk Farm. In fact they were so close it is a wonder they were
never made into and interchange.

Adrian.

Wow, you've crossposted this to the dizzy heights of uk.railway *and*
misc.transport.urban-transit! Though perhaps without enough of an
explaination. For those who're a bit lost coming in late then I refer
you to the original thread entitled "The best non-interchange
interchanges" on uk.transport.london [1].

In reply to the above comments, Regents Park (Bakerloo line) and Great
Portland Street (Met/Circle/H&C lines) are exceedingly close, but given
there's a direct interchange between all theselines a mere one station
west at Baker Street there'd be little justification for spending money
combining these stations.

Just possibly the out-of-station 'distant interchange' walk between
Regents Park and Gt Portland St might be useful to rush hour commuters
looking to avoid the scrum, but I think it'd take longer.


[1] For those who don't detest Google Groups, a direct link:
http://tinyurl.com/rshje

MIG wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
(snip)

London Bridge NR to Monument/Bank - walk over the river on London
Bridge.
The District and Circle at Monument are particularly close. Good route
for those heading East on the District and vice versa.

(snip)

Cannon Street (NR and LU) is nearer to Bank than Monument is. Much
easier from South East to go along the Central Line than going North
from Charing Cross and changing again. Probably as near as Charing
Cross (NR) to Charing Cross Bakerloo.

Good one, I hadn't thought of the possibilities from Cannon Street.
Basically any wily traveller arriving from points south or southeast
into London Bridge, Cannon Street or Charing Cross and heading onwards
on the Underground would be wise to consider their options before
heading down the first hole with a roundel above it!

Obviously arrivals at Charing Cross should head to Embankment for the
District and Circle (as indicated on maps already), and could consider
a walk up to Leicester Square if they wanted the Piccadilly to points
north.


Great Portland Street to Regent Street, similarly close.

Great Portland Street to Regents Park is I'm sure what you meant!

Given Baker Street is one stop west from both stations and provides a
proper interchange this would only possibly be useful to those wishing
to avoid the crush there. And those wishing to perambulate in Regents
Park, which is a treat however often you go there.

On 29 Jun 2006 15:20:41 -0700, Mizter T wrote:

In reply to the above comments, Regents Park (Bakerloo line) and Great
Portland Street (Met/Circle/H&C lines) are exceedingly close, but given
there's a direct interchange between all theselines a mere one station
west at Baker Street there'd be little justification for spending money
combining these stations.

Regent's Park is closing for a year for lift replacement. One thing
that struck me as odd is that although it's practically across the
road from Great Portland Street, TfL are advising passengers to use
Baker Street (700m away) as an alternative during the closure. (Though
they do also mention GPS, almost as an afterthought.)

Mizter T wrote:

[1] For those who don't detest Google Groups, a direct link:
http://tinyurl.com/rshje

Or even better a link back to the original post of that thread:
http://tinyurl.com/r54jz

Apols for all this incompetence related usenet disturbance.

Mizter T wrote:
wrote:

MIG wrote:

Great Portland Street to Regent Street, similarly close.

It is Regent's Park. Marylebone Road/Euston Road needs some subway
station rationalization. There are so many missed interchange
opportunities.

One interchange that was, and maybe yet to come back is Primrose Hill
and Chalk Farm. In fact they were so close it is a wonder they were
never made into an interchange.

Adrian.

Wow, you've crossposted this to the dizzy heights of uk.railway *and*
misc.transport.urban-transit! Though perhaps without enough of an
explaination. For those who're a bit lost coming in late then I refer
you to the original thread entitled "The best non-interchange
interchanges" on uk.transport.london [1].

Is the original question related to rail in the UK?

Is the original question related to urban transit? And, why is London
so poorly represented on misc.transport.urban-transit compared with
other metropolitan regions, especialy those in English speaking
countries?

Is it so hard to follow a thread back to its source?

In article om,
(Mizter T) wrote:

Putney NR to East Putney (District Line Wimbledon Branch)

Ugh! They're not very close. What journey combination would it be useful
for?

Battersea Park NR (Southern) to Queenstown Road Battersea NR (SWT)
- for changing from the South London Line (Victoria - London Bridge)
to SWT Windsor Line trains (to Clapham Junction, Richmond and beyond).

Remember it well. My father taught dentistry at King's in Camberwell
when I was brought up in Putney so this was one of the ways I got to the
dentist's.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:
MIG wrote:

Great Portland Street to Regent Street, similarly close.

It is Regent's Park. Marylebone Road/Euston Road needs some subway
station rationalization. There are so many missed interchange
opportunities.


Yes. My fingers followed a familiar pattern I'm afraid.



One interchange that was, and maybe yet to come back is Primrose Hill
and Chalk Farm. In fact they were so close it is a wonder they were
never made into and interchange.

Adrian.

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article om,
(Mizter T) wrote:

Putney NR to East Putney (District Line Wimbledon Branch)

Ugh! They're not very close. What journey combination would it be useful
for?

Battersea Park NR (Southern) to Queenstown Road Battersea NR (SWT)
- for changing from the South London Line (Victoria - London Bridge)
to SWT Windsor Line trains (to Clapham Junction, Richmond and beyond).

Remember it well. My father taught dentistry at King's in Camberwell
when I was brought up in Putney so this was one of the ways I got to the
dentist's.



And it's probably a shorter walk, if going to Victoria, than the
supposed interchange at Clapham Junction. I was on a train that got
stuck with a signal failure at Queenstown Road recently and everyone
seemed to know to pile down to Battersea Park. It's not just the
London Bridge trains that stop there, it's nearly all Southern stopping
stuff to/from Victoria.

How about Lancaster Gate to Paddington? I used to use it regularly if
coming from the Central Line; saves the change at Oxford Circus.


"Mizter T" wrote in message
ps.com...
Courtesy of the era of Victoria railway competition (and too much time
on my hands) I give you the list of the best non-interchange
interchanges in London. Here are some lesser known ways to change
between lines in the capital that aren't marked as interchanges on the
London Connections map or the Tube map as they involve a small(ish)
walk between stations. I've used some of them (and found them very
useful), with some I've just put
one and one together from some knwoledge of the area, some I've just
deduced from the A-Z

Thankfully some of the really close stations do now appear as
interchanges on maps, for example Clapham High Street (South London
Line) to Clapham North (Northern Line). But for those who are able
bodied, not carrying heavy luggage, a bit more adventurous and perhaps
have some idea of the timetable then there's time to be saved and
useful connections to be made, and possibly congested interchanges that
can be avoided. I've probably missed a few too,


National Rail stations are indicated with an NR after the station name.
(Names of lines are indicated in brackets after the station name.)



-------
Central
-------

London Bridge NR to Monument/Bank - walk over the river on London
Bridge.
The District and Circle at Monument are particularly close. Good route
for those heading East on the District and vice versa.

Moorgate to Liverpool Street NR
- for changing from the Northern Line and FCC's Great Northern Line.

St Pauls (Central Line) to City Thameslink NR.

Aldgate to Aldgate East
- for changing between the Circle, District, H&C and Met. Potentially
useful if one of the lines is up the spout.


-----
South
-----

Putney NR to East Putney (District Line Wimbledon Branch)

Battersea Park NR (Southern) to Queenstown Road Battersea NR (SWT)
- for changing from the South London Line (Victoria - London Bridge) to
SWT Windsor Line trains (to Clapham Junction, Richmond and beyond).

Penge West NR (Southern) to Penge East NR (Southeastern)

South Wimbledon (Northern Line) to Morden Road or Merton Park Tramlink
tram stops


-----
North
-----

Camden Town (Northern Line) to Camden Road NR (North London Line)

Kentish Town NR (Thameslink) to Kentish Town West NR (North London
Line)
- though most passengers would be better off changing at West
Hampstead.

Haringay Green Lanes NR (GOBLIN) to Manor House (Piccadilly Line)

South Tottenham (GOBLIN) to Seven Sisters (NR and Victoria Line)

Bowes Park NR (FCC Great Northern Line) to Bounds Green (Piccadilly
Line)

Alexandra Palace NR (FCC Great Northern Line) to Wood Green (Piccadilly
Line).


----------
North West
----------

Northwick Park (Metropolitan Line) to Kenton (Bakerloo Line and NR
Silverlink Metro Watford-Euston)

Kilburn (jubilee Line) to Brondesbury NR (North London Line)
- though for most journeys changing at West Hampstead would be more
convenient.

Swiss Cottage (Jubilee Line) to South Hampstead NR
- though for the journeys I can think of passengers would be better off
changing elsewhere.


----
West
----

Shepherd's Bush (Central Line) to Shepherd's Bush (Hammersmith and City
Line) or Goldhawk Road (H&C line).

Kensington Olympia NR to Shepherd's Bush (Central Line)

North Ealing (Picadilly Line) to West Acton (Central Line)



----
East
----

Whitechapel to Bethnal Green NR
- for changing from the East London Line to Enfield/Chingford Town
bound trains & vice versa.

Forest Gate NR ('one' Great Eastern line) to Wanstead Park NR (GOBLIN)
- for changing from the GOBLIN from points West to Great Eastern line
to points East or vice versa.

Walthamstow Central (NR 'one' Chingford Line & Victoria Line) to
Walthamstow Queens Road NR (GOBLIN)

Leytonstone High Road NR (GOBLIN) to Leytonstone (Central Line)