In message .com,
Mizter T writes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5143388.stm

There are no such plans to close anything this summer.

I think Livingstone is just thinking aloud on this issue - which is
fair enough, given that much of the Underground system wasn't built
with the possibilities of sustained heatwaves in mind.


We're all getting too damn soft and the media don't help. When I was
a kid we just called it hot weather and got on with it. Now there are
endless announcements to carry water and if you believe the news
we're all about to suffer heat stroke. They'll be putting heat
councillors
on trains next :-)

The stress of not being able to get home will far outweigh the stress of
being a bit hot, so get Ken off his latest hobby horse and leave the
Underground running.

I could go on about the new improved London Transport that Ken promised
us would be bought with the congestion charge money, but I think he's
spent it all on community policing and the damn Olympics.


--
Edward Cowling London UK

Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
In message .com,
Mizter T writes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5143388.stm

There are no such plans to close anything this summer.

I think Livingstone is just thinking aloud on this issue - which is
fair enough, given that much of the Underground system wasn't built
with the possibilities of sustained heatwaves in mind.


We're all getting too damn soft and the media don't help. When I was
a kid we just called it hot weather and got on with it. Now there are
endless announcements to carry water and if you believe the news
we're all about to suffer heat stroke. They'll be putting heat
councillors
on trains next :-)

The stress of not being able to get home will far outweigh the stress of
being a bit hot, so get Ken off his latest hobby horse and leave the
Underground running.

I could go on about the new improved London Transport that Ken promised
us would be bought with the congestion charge money, but I think he's
spent it all on community policing and the damn Olympics.


--
Edward Cowling London UK

Something that I have always puzzled over is that if people now wander
off for more than 5 minutes from their home they have to take water
with them to prevent dehydration.
My journey into work this morning was an hour and a half, I drank tea
before I left home and I reached work without dieing of thirst.

Kevin

Kev wrote:

Something that I have always puzzled over is that if people now wander
off for more than 5 minutes from their home they have to take water
with them to prevent dehydration.

Or is it because mineral water is becoming a fashion statement?

My journey into work this morning was an hour and a half, I drank tea
before I left home and I reached work without dieing of thirst.

Depends on the individual. I dehydrate very easily, especially in this
kind of weather, so if I'm carrying any sort of bag it'll likely have a
bottle of diluted squash in it somewhere (or similar). I've done this
for years. Not everyone's the same, though.

Neil

"Neil Williams" wrote in
ps.com:

Or is it because mineral water is becoming a fashion statement?

The opposite, surely? In the 80s Perrier and Evian in particular were
very much associated with the whole yuppy "red braces" image, whereas
now nobody thinks twice about buying a bottle of water if they're
thirsty. Although given that the stuff can be anything up to twice as
expensive as petrol, perhaps they *should* think twice!

Depends on the individual. I dehydrate very easily, especially in
this kind of weather, so if I'm carrying any sort of bag it'll likely
have a bottle of diluted squash in it somewhere (or similar). I've
done this for years. Not everyone's the same, though.

I always carry a bottle of water with me (filled up from the tap of
course -- Thames Water's finest will do me), but that's more the
occasions when the Central Line decides to come to a juddering halt
leaving me stranded underground in 35C heat for an hour or so. Which
has only happened twice in the last couple of years ...

Iain

"Kev" wrote in message

Something that I have always puzzled over is that if people now wander
off for more than 5 minutes from their home they have to take water
with them to prevent dehydration.

Will this mean that trains will now have to have functioning toilets
on them more frequently ? Given that FCC were exhorting me to
"always carry water with [me] at all times" and to "stay out of
direct sunlight" (!duh), your average railway coach is going to be filled
without
100 litre of bladders waiting to be emptied.

Richard [in SG19]




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Edward Cowling London UK wrote:


We're all getting too damn soft and the media don't help. When I was
a kid we just called it hot weather and got on with it. Now there are
endless announcements to carry water and if you believe the news
we're all about to suffer heat stroke. They'll be putting heat
councillors
on trains next :-)



--
Edward Cowling London UK


To some extent what you say about us getting soft is true. On the other
hand, when there was last a prolonged period of heat like this there
were 2000 deaths in this country and 11000 in France. Presumably, there
were as many, if not more, cases in the UK which required
hospitalization. So too remind us to take sensible precautions is not
stupid if it stops the NHS having to expend resources on treating
people unnecessarily.

It's a long, long time since I had to suffer the Tube in very hot
weather - it is over 30 years, in fact, since I was a regular commuter.
It was foul in those days - my understanding is that it is even more
crowded now than it was then and, of course, the more people there are,
the more heat is created just by the bodies.

Edward Cowling London UK wrote:

We're all getting too damn soft and the media don't help. When I was
a kid we just called it hot weather and got on with it. Now there are
endless announcements to carry water and if you believe the news
we're all about to suffer heat stroke.

That's because in the past when people dropped dead on the tube, their
relatives just grieved, buried their dead and got on with their lives.
Now they sue.

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(Original "Great Western" nameplate on 47 500, 1979)

On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 08:46:51 +0100 someone who may be Edward Cowling
London UK wrote this:-

We're all getting too damn soft and the media don't help. When I was
a kid we just called it hot weather and got on with it. Now there are
endless announcements to carry water and if you believe the news
we're all about to suffer heat stroke.

As others have said, this is the fashion for "mineral" water.
Personally if I want water I turn on the tap and water comes out. I
did this when I lived in London too.

As for shutting down some lines, that would simply increase the
temperature in the tunnels. The trains are much of the ventilation
system and they do a reasonable job of keeping the tunnels
reasonably cool.

As for high temperatures in tunnels when the trains stop running, a
member of my family gave up her job in a florist in Covent Garden
(this would probably have been in the late 1950s) after being caught
in a few breakdowns on peak hour trains. People probably whined less
then.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

David Hansen wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 08:46:51 +0100 someone who may be Edward Cowling
London UK wrote this:-

We're all getting too damn soft and the media don't help. When I was
a kid we just called it hot weather and got on with it. Now there are
endless announcements to carry water and if you believe the news
we're all about to suffer heat stroke.

As others have said, this is the fashion for "mineral" water.
Personally if I want water I turn on the tap and water comes out. I
did this when I lived in London too.

Last I checked there weren't any taps on the underground platforms, or
on underground trains. If you're stuck on a tube train in very hot
weather, water definitely helps. I think it's a sensible precaution on
the tube in hot weather.

--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org

Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
In message .com,
Mizter T writes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5143388.stm

They'll be putting heat councillors
on trains next :-)


I`m *not* electing any of those! Better to use trained staff, or,
failing that, heat counsellors. ;-) Isn`t British awful in its lack of
phonetic pronounciation?