How reliable is the Richmond branch of the NNL and district line?

I was waiting at Turnham green for 25 mins for a richmond train.

Aosmosis wrote:
How reliable is the Richmond branch of the NNL and district line?

I was waiting at Turnham green for 25 mins for a richmond train.

Yes, it happens. Richmond trains normally start from Upminster, so they
have 37 stations before Turnham Green in which to develop delays, not to
mention interleaving the service with the Hammersmith & City, the
Circle, and the Wimbledon, Ealing, Edgware Road and Olympia services of
the District. Richmond trains also have to share tracks and an
inadequate signalling system between Gunnersbury and Richmond. Delays
there on an eastbound service can affect the next westbound run of that
train.

Richmond trains are supposed to run every 10 minutes for most of the
day, so you may be due for a charter refund if your delay was more than
15 minutes.

The NLL (not NNL) is also fairly unreliable in my experience.

Was any announcement made at Turnham Green about the delay? When was
this?
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:24:52 +0100, "Aosmosis" wrote:

How reliable is the Richmond branch of the NNL and district line?

I was waiting at Turnham green for 25 mins for a richmond train.

Next time get the bus (or walk) to Gunnersbury, and get the
District/NLL from there. The NLL has a timetable, so at least you can
plan for that, even though they are sometimes late.

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Richard J. wrote:

(snip)

The NLL (not NNL) is also fairly unreliable in my experience.


NLL being the North London Line, currently operated by Silverlink
Metro.

I'm an occasional user of the NLL, I find that the trains are often
delayed by a few minutes but cancelations are rare - unless that is
there's some major problem somewhere - and once you're on the train it
doesn't get held up by anything else. After all it is an every 15
minute (or every 20 in the evening) metro service that carries a lot of
people these days.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:32:27 +0100, Tom Robinson
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:24:52 +0100, "Aosmosis" wrote:

How reliable is the Richmond branch of the NNL and district line?

I was waiting at Turnham green for 25 mins for a richmond train.

Next time get the bus (or walk) to Gunnersbury, and get the
District/NLL from there. The NLL has a timetable, so at least you can
plan for that, even though they are sometimes late.

There is also a live departure board on the ATOC site for Gunnersbury
so you can use that, if you are near to a computer with internet
access before you set off:

http://www.livedepartureboards.co.uk...dep.aspx?T=GUN

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"Richard J." wrote in message
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Aosmosis wrote:
How reliable is the Richmond branch of the NNL and district line?

I was waiting at Turnham green for 25 mins for a richmond train.

Yes, it happens. Richmond trains normally start from Upminster, so they
have 37 stations before Turnham Green in which to develop delays, not to
mention interleaving the service with the Hammersmith & City, the Circle,
and the Wimbledon, Ealing, Edgware Road and Olympia services of the
District. Richmond trains also have to share tracks and an inadequate
signalling system between Gunnersbury and Richmond. Delays there on an
eastbound service can affect the next westbound run of that train.

Richmond trains are supposed to run every 10 minutes for most of the day,
so you may be due for a charter refund if your delay was more than 15
minutes.

The NLL (not NNL) is also fairly unreliable in my experience.

Was any announcement made at Turnham Green about the delay? When was
this?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

No aannouncement was made. Also there is a passenger help box. I pressed the
button and it said operator unavailable, please contact a memeber of staff.
Do do this I would have had to go downstairs touch out and approach the
ticket window. Totally unacceptable.

Aosmosis wrote:

"Richard J." wrote in message
.uk...

(snip)

Was any announcement made at Turnham Green about the delay? When was
this?


No aannouncement was made. Also there is a passenger help box. I pressed the
button and it said operator unavailable, please contact a memeber of staff.
Do do this I would have had to go downstairs touch out and approach the
ticket window. Totally unacceptable.


Fill in London Underground's online feedback form and tell them about
it, it won't take more than a few minutes:

https://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/contacts/form.asp

Tom Robinson wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:32:27 +0100, Tom Robinson
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:24:52 +0100, "Aosmosis" wrote:

How reliable is the Richmond branch of the NNL and district line?

I was waiting at Turnham green for 25 mins for a richmond train.


What ever happened to the proposal too run a branch from the central
line to Richmond and discontinue the district service? Was it all
connected to Crossrail going ahead?

kytelly wrote:
Tom Robinson wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:32:27 +0100, Tom Robinson
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:24:52 +0100, "Aosmosis" wrote:

How reliable is the Richmond branch of the NNL and district line?

I was waiting at Turnham green for 25 mins for a richmond train.

What ever happened to the proposal too run a branch from the central
line to Richmond and discontinue the district service? Was it all
connected to Crossrail going ahead?

Long gone. The proposal was coupled with a Bakerloo branch from
Willesden Junction to North Acton to take over the Ealing Broadway
branch of the Central line. That rather odd package was an alternative
option studied alongside Crossrail some 20 years or so ago as part of a
general cross-London rail study. It would have been very expensive for
the relatively small achievement of increasing District frequency
between Turnham Green and Ealing.


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

kytelly wrote:
Tom Robinson wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:32:27 +0100, Tom Robinson
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:24:52 +0100, "Aosmosis"
wrote:

How reliable is the Richmond branch of the NNL and district line?

I was waiting at Turnham green for 25 mins for a richmond train.


What ever happened to the proposal too run a branch from the central
line to Richmond and discontinue the district service? Was it all
connected to Crossrail going ahead?

There was a proposal in the 1920's for a Central Line extension from
Shepherd's Bush to Gunnersbury, and there was even an Underground map
poster showing it as a dotted line. There's one in the Acton Depot of
London's Transport Museum.

The only recent proposal of this sort was the "Corridor 6" option for
Crossrail, involving a tunnel from the GMWL at Wormwood Scrubs to just
west of Turnham Green, then via Gunnersbury and Richmond to Kingston,
which would have meant closing the District's service to Richmond. That
idea was dropped in 2004 in favour of the current plan to run Crossrail
to Maidenhead.
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Richard J.
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