In article , Paul Corfield
writes
"The average commuter is spending more than 139 hours per year
commuting, increasing substantially for Londoners who spend the
equivalent of one whole month per year (225 hours a year) travelling to
and from work."

I accept they are talking about average times but I struggle to see how
the average is so low.

According to a meeting I was at the other day, the *average* distance
from home to work, over the entire working population, is under 8 miles.

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In message , Paul Corfield
writes

While I don't know exactly how the authors of the study
calculated their numbers the implication is that there are a lot more
relatively short commuting journeys in order to drag the average down.
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people
typically do have long or short trip times?

Mine is less than a minute a day - up the stairs to the office, and
then back down again.

I don't think that really counts as commuting, but if the increasing
number of home workers have been included, then that would certainly
bring the average down considerably.

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Paul Corfield wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5245860.stm

"The average commuter is spending more than 139 hours per year
commuting, increasing substantially for Londoners who spend the
equivalent of one whole month per year (225 hours a year) travelling to
and from work."

I accept they are talking about average times but I struggle to see how
the average is so low. My commute time is about 40 mins in the morning
and 50 in the evening and is not particularly onerous compared to those
of my immediate work colleagues most of whom travel a considerable
distance by main line rail.

My annual total, based on about 45 weeks for the working year, comes out
at 337.5 hours. While I don't know exactly how the authors of the study
calculated their numbers the implication is that there are a lot more
relatively short commuting journeys in order to drag the average down.
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people
typically do have long or short trip times?


Currently between 15-20 minutes each way by bike (Shepherd's Bush to
South Kensington, about 4km), going up to about 35 minutes by Tube (the
Bush to St James's Park) in September.

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:12:59 +0100, Dave Arquati wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people
typically do have long or short trip times?


Currently between 15-20 minutes each way by bike (Shepherd's Bush to
South Kensington, about 4km), going up to about 35 minutes by Tube (the
Bush to St James's Park) in September.

this suggest a new job - with LU or someone else?
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Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Only 50 to 60 minutes a day for me (with 6 possible routs) - but the
cost is that I'm in Stratford, which is a terrible place to live. I
live here only for 4 months, but already thinking about moving
somewhere else.

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:12:59 +0100, Dave Arquati wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people
typically do have long or short trip times?

Currently between 15-20 minutes each way by bike (Shepherd's Bush to
South Kensington, about 4km), going up to about 35 minutes by Tube (the
Bush to St James's Park) in September.

this suggest a new job - with LU or someone else?

TfL graduate scheme, but they're keeping very quiet about which
department I start in.

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:00:13 +0100, Dave Arquati wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:12:59 +0100, Dave Arquati wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people
typically do have long or short trip times?

Currently between 15-20 minutes each way by bike (Shepherd's Bush to
South Kensington, about 4km), going up to about 35 minutes by Tube (the
Bush to St James's Park) in September.

this suggest a new job - with LU or someone else?

TfL graduate scheme, but they're keeping very quiet about which
department I start in.

Well done. Ah - a future high flyer then. Well you could be with LU (55
Bdwy), Streets (Dacre St) or TfL centre at Windsor House. Obviously not
with buses or else you'd be at 172 Buck Palace Rd or Ecclestone Square.

I shall keep looking over my shoulder to see if you are looming in the
background to take over my job ;-)
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:16:00 +0100, Steve M
wrote:

Around 100 minutes a day for me: 50 each way Norbiton - St James's Park
and back, including a walk, 2 trains and one Tube.

I'm surprised you don't go through to Vauxhall and get a 87 or 88 bus up
to Whitehall / Parliament Square (87) or Great Smith St / Marsham Street
(88). I'm guessing you change at Clapham Junction to Victoria and then
battle on to the District Line.


I've tried every possible combination and the Victoria route actually
works out quickest. 9 times out of 10, the following happens:

SWT arrival at CLJ: 0 mins
Southern departure from CLJ plat 12/14: (at the latest) 2 mins
Southern arrival at Victoria: 10 mins
Quick walk to District Line platforms
District Line train leaves: 14 mins
Through barriers at SJP and into office: 16 mins

Going via Vauxhall:

SWT arrival at CLJ: 0 mins
SWT departure from CLJ: 1 min
SWT arrival at Vauxhall: 7 mins
Quick walk to bus station
Bus leaves: 12 mins
Bus arrives: 20 mins
Walk to SJP and into office: 24 mins

The former works for me as it really does work, and the trains come at
pretty much the same time every day (almost to the second). I get really
frustrated when having to depend on the bus as with frequent services,
they never come at the same time each day and the journey time is
dependant on variable traffic conditions, slow boarding passengers etc.

The former also means I can usually wangle an extra 15 mins in bed,
although working above the station at SJP also helps!

Cheers

Steve M

Dave Arquati wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:12:59 +0100, Dave Arquati wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if
people
typically do have long or short trip times?

Currently between 15-20 minutes each way by bike (Shepherd's Bush to
South Kensington, about 4km), going up to about 35 minutes by Tube
(the Bush to St James's Park) in September.

this suggest a new job - with LU or someone else?

TfL graduate scheme, but they're keeping very quiet about which
department I start in.


Congrats - which scheme? I'm just coming to the end of mine... and yes,
when I started I didn't find out until my first day where I was to be
working.

Cheers

Steve M

In message , Paul Corfield
writes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5245860.stm

"The average commuter is spending more than 139 hours per year
commuting, increasing substantially for Londoners who spend the
equivalent of one whole month per year (225 hours a year) travelling to
and from work."

I accept they are talking about average times but I struggle to see how
the average is so low. My commute time is about 40 mins in the morning
and 50 in the evening and is not particularly onerous compared to those
of my immediate work colleagues most of whom travel a considerable
distance by main line rail.

My annual total, based on about 45 weeks for the working year, comes out
at 337.5 hours. While I don't know exactly how the authors of the study
calculated their numbers the implication is that there are a lot more
relatively short commuting journeys in order to drag the average down.
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people
typically do have long or short trip times?

20 minutes each way on the bike (30 if the traffic's bad on the NCR).
It's 1 hour 20 if I decide to do it by train though.

So that would be about 225 hours?
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