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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:31:26 GMT, "Richard J."
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:30:14 +0100, Dave Arquati
wrote:


Paul said that you need to put down a £3 deposit when buying this
7-day Travelcard on Oyster, but I'm not sure that's the case - the
following
Ask Oyster answer suggests not:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?D215118AD


I went from what was in the TfL tickets book. I am aware that the £3
charge has been waived for a period of time but the revenue
protection documents I could see at work have vanished from the
Intranet so I am not up to date on this issue. I don't trust a
single thing that is put in "Ask Oyster" as it usually vague to the
point of being useless.


The Fares and Tickets leaflet on the TfL website (dated 1 July 2006)
still says "You will need to pay a deposit of £3 when you first get your
Oyster card if you are only buying a 7 Day season ticket or you wish to
pay as you go", which implies that it's free only if you get a monthly
or longer period season. So Ask Oyster contradicts the F&T leaflet.


My point exactly - I'd go with the leaflet every time.
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Paul Corfield wrote:

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:31:26 GMT, "Richard J."
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The Fares and Tickets leaflet on the TfL website (dated 1 July 2006)
still says "You will need to pay a deposit of £3 when you first get your
Oyster card if you are only buying a 7 Day season ticket or you wish to
pay as you go", which implies that it's free only if you get a monthly
or longer period season. So Ask Oyster contradicts the F&T leaflet.



My point exactly - I'd go with the leaflet every time.


This is a little bit confusing... I'm also trying to work out if there
is a £3 deposit or not in this case and in addition to the difference
between the leaflet and Ask Oyster I have just found out that the
on-line oyster shop automatically adds £3 if I just order a card with
PAYG value but not if I order a card with a 7-day travelcard on it...

You can see it he https://sales.oystercard.com

So in this case I think the leaflet is wrong for some reason (perhaps
they meant 7 day bus pass or something, not 7 day travelcard).

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:39:30 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote:

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:31:26 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

I went from what was in the TfL tickets book. I am aware that the £3
charge has been waived for a period of time but the revenue
protection documents I could see at work have vanished from the
Intranet so I am not up to date on this issue. I don't trust a
single thing that is put in "Ask Oyster" as it usually vague to the
point of being useless.


The Fares and Tickets leaflet on the TfL website (dated 1 July 2006)
still says "You will need to pay a deposit of £3 when you first get your
Oyster card if you are only buying a 7 Day season ticket or you wish to
pay as you go", which implies that it's free only if you get a monthly
or longer period season. So Ask Oyster contradicts the F&T leaflet.


My point exactly - I'd go with the leaflet every time.


I purchased an 7 day Oyster travelcard for the first time on 08/08/06,
and was not asked for the £3.00 deposit.
The only thing I was asked for was a password!

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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:30:14 +0100, Dave Arquati
wrote:.

snip
It certainly would be - maximum flexibility. Note also that a
travelcard valid for any zonal combination is valid on ALL TfL bus
services over their entire length so you have 6 zones plus some "out
county" bits as well - including the shopping mecca of Bluewater. Oops
perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned that ;-)


Great, now I'm going to spend the entire weekend looking at clothes and
shoes )

Yes - any season ticket (7 days or longer) loaded onto an Oyster is
valid on National Rail within the appropriate zones - it's only the
daily pay-as-you-go which can't be used on NR.


I think this is what I'll go for, And the fact that it'll be one
transaction the day we arrive and then no more need to worry about
having tickets certainly appeals.

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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:31:26 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:30:14 +0100, Dave Arquati
wrote:


Paul said that you need to put down a £3 deposit when buying this
7-day Travelcard on Oyster, but I'm not sure that's the case - the
following
Ask Oyster answer suggests not:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?D215118AD

I went from what was in the TfL tickets book. I am aware that the £3
charge has been waived for a period of time but the revenue
protection documents I could see at work have vanished from the
Intranet so I am not up to date on this issue. I don't trust a
single thing that is put in "Ask Oyster" as it usually vague to the
point of being useless.


The Fares and Tickets leaflet on the TfL website (dated 1 July 2006)
still says "You will need to pay a deposit of £3 when you first get your
Oyster card if you are only buying a 7 Day season ticket or you wish to
pay as you go", which implies that it's free only if you get a monthly
or longer period season. So Ask Oyster contradicts the F&T leaflet.


My point exactly - I'd go with the leaflet every time.


Recently, SWMBO managed to loose her spouse pass. When she got a 7 day TC on
an oyster to get her to work whilst passes & permits were sorting out a
replacement, she was NOT charged a £3 deposit. This from the newsagent in
TPL station.
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Thomas Covenant wrote:
I purchased an 7 day Oyster travelcard for the first time on 08/08/06,
and was not asked for the £3.00 deposit.
The only thing I was asked for was a password!


I did the same one day before you and was asked for neither deposit nor
password.

I thought the deposit on 7-day Oyster-based Travelcards was eliminated
when the 7-day paper Travelcard ceased to exist -- although the "Fares
and tickets" brochure indeed disagrees.
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In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:58 +0100 (BST),
(Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

The Piccadilly Line has flat, cross platform interchange to the
Victoria Line at Finsbury Park and both lines are much more
frequent than the First Capital Connect overground via Hornsey.


Actually, the FCC service to Hornsey runs every 10 minutes from
Highbury and Islington (cross-platform with the Victoria Line) or
Finsbury Park. Not as frequent as the tube but better than most
overground service frequencies.


Accepted Colin but the tube is typically three times more frequent
than that and buses from Turnpike Lane or Finsbury Park are very
frequent all the time. The FCC service also does not serve Highbury
late evenings or at weekends which is simply an added complication for
visitors to deal with.


I don't know the OP's destination in Hornsey but I find the GN station
much more convenient for me than Turnpike Land the buses.

With Oyster pre-pay the tube is also considerably cheaper than FCC
from Hornsey as well.


Not a problem on a day travelcard from Cambridge! I don't know how I
would manage otherwise though. It's technically doubling back for me so
there are no other sensible tickets between Cambridge and Hornsey.

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