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the Roman Ermine Street runs right by Temple Bar


Ermine Street seems to be still in use from London Bridge to the Tottenham /
Edmonton boundary, but abandoned from there to Maidens Bridge in Bulls
Cross. I wonder why, and when it happened - was it in connection with the
New River construction?

Things are even worse now, so the prospect of it in the
middle of Paternoster Square all spruced up and giving
the place a bit of character can only be welcomed.


I'm sure the phrases "Paternoster Square" and "a bit of character" in the
same sentence will sound okay in time!

I don't understand why they couldn't put it back between the Strand and
Fleet Street. There were buildings demolished there recently, and I assumed
that they were making room for it, but it would appear not. Failing that, I
think they should have put it somewhere else on the boundary between the
City of London and the City of Westminster, perhaps on the Embankment.
Putting it in Paternoster Square seems pointless, because it won't be the
gate between anything, and it will be outclassed by Wren's better known work
anyway.

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John Rowland wrote:
"Keith Marshall" wrote in message
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the Roman Ermine Street runs right by Temple Bar


Ermine Street seems to be still in use from London Bridge
to the Tottenham / Edmonton boundary, but abandoned from
there to Maidens Bridge in Bulls Cross. I wonder why, and
when it happened - was it in connection with the New River
construction?

Things are even worse now, so the prospect of it in the
middle of Paternoster Square all spruced up and giving
the place a bit of character can only be welcomed.


I'm sure the phrases "Paternoster Square" and "a bit of
character" in the same sentence will sound okay in time!

I don't understand why they couldn't put it back between
the Strand and Fleet Street. There were buildings
demolished there recently, and I assumed that they were
making room for it, but it would appear not. Failing that,
I think they should have put it somewhere else on the
boundary between the City of London and the City of
Westminster, perhaps on the Embankment. Putting it in
Paternoster Square seems pointless, because it won't be the
gate between anything, and it will be outclassed by Wren's
better known work anyway.


Why not as a gate into the CC area? It'd make a significant contribution to
free movement of traffic!


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John Rowland wrote:

Why not as a gate into the CC area?


Hehe, and make 200 replicas for all of the cordon points.

It'd make a significant contribution to free movement of traffic!


How restrictive is it anyway? Could 2 Routemasters pass each other beneath
it? 2 bendibi?

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John Rowland wrote:

I'm sure the phrases "Paternoster Square" and "a bit of character" in the
same sentence will sound okay in time!

I don't understand why they couldn't put it back between the Strand and
Fleet Street. There were buildings demolished there recently, and I assumed
that they were making room for it, but it would appear not. Failing that, I
think they should have put it somewhere else on the boundary between the
City of London and the City of Westminster, perhaps on the Embankment.
Putting it in Paternoster Square seems pointless, because it won't be the
gate between anything, and it will be outclassed by Wren's better known work
anyway.


Remember - this is the new Paternoster Square, which is much more
sympathic towards it's far more grand neighbour St Pauls than that 60's
nightmare.

A piccie of where Temple Bar is being moved to is he

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL85/9...1/29012091.jpg

Behind it, you can see the north tower of St Pauls on the West Front
(I'm sure it's probably got some specific name but I don't know it). The
red brick building in on the left is the original chapterhouse (I
think), the cream coloured building on the right is a new building
that's part of the new Paternoster Sq development.

So, it's not just being stuck in the middle of the square - it will be
used as the main gateway to and from it (the square itself also has a
big column on the centre with some golden fire bolt thing on the top).

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Remember - this is the new Paternoster Square, which is much more
sympathic towards it's far more grand neighbour St Pauls than that
60's nightmare.

A piccie of where Temple Bar is being moved to is he

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL85/9...1/29012091.jpg


Any idea when the move will be completed? I'd like to go and have a
look once it is.

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In message , Robin May
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Any idea when the move will be completed? I'd like to go and have a
look once it is.


"By November 2004" according to http://www.thetemplebar.info/
(where there are also numerous photos)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3055575.stm
mentions the same date.

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