In message , at
12:25:23 on Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Sam Wilson remarked:
The planner only recognises places served by trains (including LUL) and
long distance coaches, and mainly suggests travel only by these modes.

Not quite - if you travel from Edinburgh it starts at the bus station
even when the whole of the journey is by train.

Is the bus station (and hence Edinburgh) served by long distance
coaches? If so it meets my description.

Although most towns I looked at had a *choice* of Bus or Train station
(where both existed).
--
Roland Perry

In article ,
Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at
12:25:23 on Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Sam Wilson remarked:
The planner only recognises places served by trains (including LUL) and
long distance coaches, and mainly suggests travel only by these modes.

Not quite - if you travel from Edinburgh it starts at the bus station
even when the whole of the journey is by train.

Is the bus station (and hence Edinburgh) served by long distance
coaches? If so it meets my description.

Yes, but that's not the point.

Although most towns I looked at had a *choice* of Bus or Train station
(where both existed).

If you just give "edinburgh" as a starting point it chooses the bus
station. I gave it a trip to Stevenage this coming Friday, arriving at
20:00. It offered two journeys by train and two (really one) by air.
In all cases the journeys started with a walk from the bus station to
Waverley station or to Waverley Bridge where the airport buses run from
(no, they don't run from the bus station!).

Sam

On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:38:36 +0100, Iain Wilkie Logan wrote:

Please visit http://www.planajourney.co.uk/ where you will find our
multi-modal journey planning alternative to 'Transport Direct'.

Needs work, a lot of work.

Most of the places I tried to enter appear not to exist in your database.
The "search" button is greyed out, which is a stupid piece of interface
design.

A cross London trip from Waterloo to St Pancras results in a recommendation
to change trains four times.

Waterloo(trains)-Waterloo(LU)-Euston(LU)-Kings Cross(LU)-St Pancras
(trains)

Which seems bloody daft.

In uk.railway Steve Firth wrote:
A cross London trip from Waterloo to St Pancras results in a recommendation
to change trains four times.

Waterloo(trains)-Waterloo(LU)-Euston(LU)-Kings Cross(LU)-St Pancras
(trains)

That's not four changes. It's saying:
Walk from Waterloo concourse to Waterloo tube
Catch a train to Euston (tube)
Change to a train to King's Cross (tube)
Walk to St Pancras concourse

It's only flagged as one change: but it explicitly tells you of sections
where you'd need to walk, such as where the tube station is distinct from
the concourse. These are generally obvious and humans would do it without
thinking. But it's useful to have it outlined how long the walk is if you
don't have local knowledge - is it 5 mins or half an hour?

Theo
(who has been using www.9292ov.nl recently and find it quite a good planner
if you've never even set foot in the country concerned so have no local
knowledge whatever. Once you've figured out what the Dutch words mean

On 12 Sep 2006 12:22:50 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos
wrote:

In uk.railway Steve Firth wrote:
A cross London trip from Waterloo to St Pancras results in a recommendation
to change trains four times.

Waterloo(trains)-Waterloo(LU)-Euston(LU)-Kings Cross(LU)-St Pancras
(trains)

That's not four changes. It's saying:
Walk from Waterloo concourse to Waterloo tube
Catch a train to Euston (tube)
Change to a train to King's Cross (tube)
Walk to St Pancras concourse

It's also bloody stupid because who would want to change at Euston? It
must jointly win the prize (along with Embankment) as the station with
the most people standing looking lost at every line diagram or sign
pointing to a platform or line.

Far more convenient to take the Bakerloo Line to Oxford Circus and make
a cross platform, level interchange to the Victoria Line to Kings Cross.

The Jubilee Line to Green Park and then Victoria Line is not ideal but
it's probably less confusing, as a second choice, than going via Euston.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

"Paul Corfield" wrote

It's also bloody stupid because who would want to change at Euston? It
must jointly win the prize (along with Embankment) as the station with
the most people standing looking lost at every line diagram or sign
pointing to a platform or line.

Far more convenient to take the Bakerloo Line to Oxford Circus and make
a cross platform, level interchange to the Victoria Line to Kings Cross.

The Jubilee Line to Green Park and then Victoria Line is not ideal but
it's probably less confusing, as a second choice, than going via Euston.

Or Northern/Piccadilly via Leicester Sq., which is the way I did it in
pre-Victoria Line days.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:05:43 +0100, "John Salmon"
wrote:


"Paul Corfield" wrote

It's also bloody stupid because who would want to change at Euston? It
must jointly win the prize (along with Embankment) as the station with
the most people standing looking lost at every line diagram or sign
pointing to a platform or line.

Far more convenient to take the Bakerloo Line to Oxford Circus and make
a cross platform, level interchange to the Victoria Line to Kings Cross.

The Jubilee Line to Green Park and then Victoria Line is not ideal but
it's probably less confusing, as a second choice, than going via Euston.

Or Northern/Piccadilly via Leicester Sq., which is the way I did it in
pre-Victoria Line days.

Well yes but that can be a dire interchange if you choose the wrong
route between lines. It's also awful if you have luggage - I use
Leicester Square every day and the number of people struggling with
heavy luggage is considerable given Eurostar / Heathrow flows from the
Northern / Picc lines respectively.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

In article , Theo Markettos
writes
A cross London trip from Waterloo to St Pancras results in a recommendation
to change trains four times.

Waterloo(trains)-Waterloo(LU)-Euston(LU)-Kings Cross(LU)-St Pancras
(trains)

That's not four changes. It's saying:
Walk from Waterloo concourse to Waterloo tube
Catch a train to Euston (tube)
Change to a train to King's Cross (tube)
Walk to St Pancras concourse

However, it's not the optimal route, which is to change at Oxford Circus
(where the change is short and on the level, while at Euston it is up
stairs, a long walk, and then down an escalator).

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"Iain Wilkie Logan" wrote in message
...

Please visit http://www.planajourney.co.uk/ where you will find our
multi-modal journey planning alternative to 'Transport Direct'.

The September 15th issue of 'Bus and Coach Professional' will contain a
comprehensive feature article on our system.

In the meantime, please go to our site and try out our planner for
yourself.

I just did. It crashes IE6 when you try to go back a page. It crashes IE6
when you try to plan a journey. That is crap. Back to the drawing board for
you.

Nick



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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:09:18 +0100, Nick Pedley wrote:

In the meantime, please go to our site and try out our planner for
yourself.

I just did. It crashes IE6 when you try to go back a page. It crashes IE6
when you try to plan a journey. That is crap. Back to the drawing board for
you.

Or for Microsoft. In theory, a web page shouldn't be able to crash a
browser...