On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:53:52 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote:

It also means that when one is forced to leave through another exit because
of overcrowding, such as happened to me when I went to Surrey Quays to
watch the London Marathon and we were made to go through another non-gated
exit, it means filling in a bloody form (and no doubt waiting a couple of
weeks for the refund). A bit unfair, really.

I would have insisted on validating my card or else wanting to
understand that the system was set up to deal with an open exit - as was
done for Sloane Square during the Chelsea Flower Show when an ungated
exit has to be used.

Are you saying that the system treated all unresolved journeys at the
time of the Chelsea Flower Show as being journeys to Sloane Square? If
so, how did it update the balance on the card?

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Incidentally what would happen to one guy who I saw last week, who arrived
in Plaistow station, went through the open baggage gates, forgot to touch
in, turned around and validated his PAYG by touching out on the normal
gates before resuming his journey. He clearly genuinely thought he was
doing the right thing, but I bet you he'd end up under the new rules with
£8 penalty charge for two unclosed journeys (two journeys without touch-
ins). Well, it would be capped, I guess, so not the full £8 - or does the
penalty charge not count towards the daily cap?

I don't understand why this would trigger anything. Judging from your
description you are saying he leant over and touched his card on the
reader on the exit side of the gate - if so no problem.

I think you've misunderstood - the man in question had entered the
station from the street and was just starting his journey.