Neil Williams wrote:
Kev wrote:
What is wrong with water out
of a tap? Consumes a damn sight less energy.

Who's to say some of the bottles aren't filled up out of the tap?
Loads of people (including everyone in this here office) do that.

Neil
They may well be but it doesn't take much to see how many bottles of
water ther are in one supermarket then multply that by the number of
supermarkets. See how easy it is to bash car drivers and airline users
for being environmentally unfriendly but when it comes to condeming
trendy bottle water drinkers it is suddenly ok.

Kevin

On 20 Sep 2006 17:07:07 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

"Two new free newspapers have created 1.5 tonnes of extra waste on the
London Underground (LU), it has been claimed."

Full story from BBC News:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5363818.stm

Yes and look who publicised it - Tube Lines! I'm sure I'll have a claim
for the extra costs when I return to work after my holidays!

And yes the collected papers are recycled by the Infracos (in response
to someone who asked this elsewhere in the thread).
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Kev wrote:

They may well be but it doesn't take much to see how many bottles of
water ther are in one supermarket then multply that by the number of
supermarkets. See how easy it is to bash car drivers and airline users
for being environmentally unfriendly but when it comes to condeming
trendy bottle water drinkers it is suddenly ok.

Given that, on occasions, I do all three of the above (with the "air
travel" one ranking quite high at the moment, though the car driving
quite low, as I'm currently flying twice weekly and spending Mon-Fri in
..nl) I am in no position to bash any of them, and I don't do so.

Neil

Kev wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:
Kev wrote:

Absolutely none but then if you agree that it is ok to truck water half
way across Europe, consuming energy and making plastic bottles,
consuming energy, then I guess it is ok. What is wrong with water out
of a tap? Consumes a damn sight less energy.
It's very tricky getting your ticket out of your pocket whilst carrying
a handful of water.
Nothing wrong with reusing a bottle filled with tap water, just why

So why did you say you want water in bottles banned from the tube?

does the bottle and the water have to come from half way across Europe.

Different point entirely. You asked for bottled water to be banned from
the tube.

"Kev" wrote in message
ups.com...

Neil Williams wrote:
Mizter T wrote:
"Two new free newspapers have created 1.5 tonnes of extra waste on the
London Underground (LU), it has been claimed."

The railways and (slightly less so) the Tube are missing a trick with
newspapers, free or otherwise, in that they get picked up as rubbish.
Why not put a clearly-signed plastic newspaper rack in each vestibule
(perhaps facing the seats on the Tube so it doesn't get in the way of
standing passengers) and encourage passengers by way of notices and
announcements to leave any unused newspapers in the rack for another
person to read?

Tidier, more environmentally-friendly, good passenger service and would
cost next to nothing.

Neil
I am not sure that I would agree to taking up space that could be used
by a standing passenger for some stupid bin fror free newspapers. Just
make the damn things illegal.

As the operators have put the contract to litter the tube 'out to tender' to
the person who will pay them the biggest amount of dosh I don't think that
they want to pass a law making them illegal.

tim

Neil Williams ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I am not sure that I would agree to taking up space that could be used
by a standing passenger for some stupid bin fror free newspapers.

Then you didn't read my post. I'm not proposing putting it anywhere
that would get in the way of standing pax.

If it isn't *RIGHT THERE* nobody'll use it.

On 20 Sep 2006 23:43:59 -0700, Neil Williams
wrote in .com:

The railways and (slightly less so) the Tube are missing a trick with
newspapers, free or otherwise, in that they get picked up as rubbish.
Why not put a clearly-signed plastic newspaper rack in each vestibule
(perhaps facing the seats on the Tube so it doesn't get in the way of
standing passengers) and encourage passengers by way of notices and
announcements to leave any unused newspapers in the rack for another
person to read?

I thought that was what the windowsill behind the seats was for.
I'm sure I've never tucked a read paper behind my head on a moderately packed
train without someone reaching across for it within seconds (or responding to
my invitation to take it because of obvious interest before tucking it away).

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Dave Newt wrote:

So why did you say you want water in bottles banned from the tube?

Probably because the majority of the bottles aren't refills. Can't you
take a bit of light hearted banter.
I find it rather amusing the way people take bottles of water on trains
as if they are going on some sort of expedition.

Kevin

Dave Newt wrote:
Kev wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:
Kev wrote:

Absolutely none but then if you agree that it is ok to truck water half
way across Europe, consuming energy and making plastic bottles,
consuming energy, then I guess it is ok. What is wrong with water out
of a tap? Consumes a damn sight less energy.
It's very tricky getting your ticket out of your pocket whilst carrying
a handful of water.
Nothing wrong with reusing a bottle filled with tap water, just why

So why did you say you want water in bottles banned from the tube?

does the bottle and the water have to come from half way across Europe.

Different point entirely. You asked for bottled water to be banned from
the tube.

Kev wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

So why did you say you want water in bottles banned from the tube?

Probably because the majority of the bottles aren't refills. Can't you
take a bit of light hearted banter.
I find it rather amusing the way people take bottles of water on trains
as if they are going on some sort of expedition.

Mine is refilled but from a bigger bottle. The small ones are
convenient to take around but their price is rip-off given the price of
the larger equivalents.