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Actually the PAYG fare would be for Zones 3-6, otherwise he would not
have a valid ticket between Northfields and Boston Manor (across the
zone 3/4 boundary). The costs are the same, though.

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Actually it would be for 4-6, because his travelcard covers zones 1-3,
and so the extension would be for the additional zones he is travelling
through - zones 4-6. Otherwise he'd be paying twice for zone 3.

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The travelcard covers his journey as far as Northfields (zone 3) and not
beyond. He then needs an extension which is valid from Northfields to
Heathrow, which has to be a zone 3-6 single. Your logic would work if
Northfields were a boundary station in both zones 3 and 4, but it isn't.


No, I think it's your logic, that is strange. With your logic if I have
ticket for zone 3, and separate ticket for zone 4, I cannot travel
between zones 3 and 4 without buying 3rd ticket for 3-4 combined.

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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:52:52 GMT, "Richard J."
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wrote:
Actually the PAYG fare would be for Zones 3-6, otherwise he would
not have a valid ticket between Northfields and Boston Manor
(across the zone 3/4 boundary). The costs are the same, though.


Actually it would be for 4-6, because his travelcard covers zones
1-3, and so the extension would be for the additional zones he is
travelling through - zones 4-6. Otherwise he'd be paying twice for
zone 3.


The travelcard covers his journey as far as Northfields (zone 3) and not
beyond. He then needs an extension which is valid from Northfields to
Heathrow, which has to be a zone 3-6 single. Your logic would work if
Northfields were a boundary station in both zones 3 and 4, but it isn't.


For LU fares you add on the zones as they are contiguous. You do not
have to buy from the last station within a zone.
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:52:52 GMT, Richard J. wrote:

Actually the PAYG fare would be for Zones 3-6, otherwise he would
not have a valid ticket between Northfields and Boston Manor
(across the zone 3/4 boundary). The costs are the same, though.


Actually it would be for 4-6, because his travelcard covers zones
1-3, and so the extension would be for the additional zones he is
travelling through - zones 4-6. Otherwise he'd be paying twice for
zone 3.


The travelcard covers his journey as far as Northfields (zone 3) and not
beyond. He then needs an extension which is valid from Northfields to
Heathrow, which has to be a zone 3-6 single. Your logic would work if
Northfields were a boundary station in both zones 3 and 4, but it isn't.


As others have said, this is not how it works in practice. If you
like, the Travelcard is valid to the Z3/4 boundary (a point on the
track somewhere between Northfields and Boston Manor), and only a Z4-6
single is needed to cover from there to Heathrow.


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asdf wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:52:52 GMT, Richard J. wrote:

Actually the PAYG fare would be for Zones 3-6, otherwise he would
not have a valid ticket between Northfields and Boston Manor
(across the zone 3/4 boundary). The costs are the same, though.


Actually it would be for 4-6, because his travelcard covers zones
1-3, and so the extension would be for the additional zones he is
travelling through - zones 4-6. Otherwise he'd be paying twice
for zone 3.


The travelcard covers his journey as far as Northfields (zone 3)
and not beyond. He then needs an extension which is valid from
Northfields to Heathrow, which has to be a zone 3-6 single. Your
logic would work if Northfields were a boundary station in both
zones 3 and 4, but it isn't.


As others have said, this is not how it works in practice. If you
like, the Travelcard is valid to the Z3/4 boundary (a point on the
track somewhere between Northfields and Boston Manor), and only a
Z4-6 single is needed to cover from there to Heathrow.


Yes, of course! Now you explain it like that, it seems obvious. Please
ignore my previous posts in this thread. I should have known better than
to try to correct Barry Salter on ticketing!
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Richard J. wrote:

Yes, of course! Now you explain it like that, it seems obvious. Please
ignore my previous posts in this thread. I should have known better than
to try to correct Barry Salter on ticketing!


Thats alright, I was about to point out what my job is... but I shan't
bother now

Just to clarify for anyone who is still confused (there's a lot of
different theories bouncing around this thread) if you have a season
ticket on oyster, lets use this example of a 1-3 ticket, and you have
pre-pay to cover any trips you make beyond zone 3, your extension will
be calculated from zone 4 outwards, as you are covered up to and
including all stations within zone 3.

So travelling Stratford to Heathrow, you are covered for zones 1-3, so
when you leave the network at Heathrow (making sure you touch out of
course) you will be charged for the extra zones you have travelled
through, which are zones 4, 5, and 6.

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So travelling Stratford to Heathrow, you are covered for zones 1-3, so
when you leave the network at Heathrow (making sure you touch out of
course) you will be charged for the extra zones you have travelled
through, which are zones 4, 5, and 6.


Well, now I'm 100% sure ;-)
Thank you!

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