On 29/09/2006 13:56, Paul Oter wrote:
clyde dempster wrote:

A station i use every working day is Kings Cross underground, i use the exit
into the main line
station. The stairs to a person with one of these cases as big as themselves
must look like Everest.

Having helped a few people to the top with there luggage my arm muscles are
developing nicely
but my back is suffering.


Two new lifts at KX (one in the old ticket hall, which takes you from
the top of the escalators up to subway level and the street, and one in
the new ticket hall, which leads from the platforms to subway level)
mean there is no need to carry heavy cases up steps from the tube any
more.

Most people probably dont know they exist. At the very least there
should be a sign in the mainline station directing people to the lift.

PaulO


There is/was a rule about taking big objects (including cases) on the
LUL over a certain size.

I'm sure that would be fun for LUL to try and enforce, but maybe they
should - I would make life so much nicer for those people who don't want
running over and blocking by 4' rolling cases

But then every now and again I see a (proper) bike on places like the
Victoria Line - and they shouldn't be let into the station, let alone on
the train.

Fun fun.

Q wrote:
On 29/09/2006 13:56, Paul Oter wrote:
clyde dempster wrote:

A station i use every working day is Kings Cross underground, i use the exit
into the main line
station. The stairs to a person with one of these cases as big as themselves
must look like Everest.

Having helped a few people to the top with there luggage my arm muscles are
developing nicely
but my back is suffering.


Two new lifts at KX (one in the old ticket hall, which takes you from
the top of the escalators up to subway level and the street, and one in
the new ticket hall, which leads from the platforms to subway level)
mean there is no need to carry heavy cases up steps from the tube any
more.

Most people probably dont know they exist. At the very least there
should be a sign in the mainline station directing people to the lift.

PaulO


There is/was a rule about taking big objects (including cases) on the
LUL over a certain size.

I'm sure that would be fun for LUL to try and enforce, but maybe they
should - I would make life so much nicer for those people who don't want
running over and blocking by 4' rolling cases

But then every now and again I see a (proper) bike on places like the
Victoria Line - and they shouldn't be let into the station, let alone on
the train.

Fun fun.

There is a very simple solution to the issue of backpacks. If people
took the bloody things off their backs and put them down by their feet
then they actually wouldn't take up any extra space. As the op says
when you get a carriage full of Quasimodos you lose half the usable
standing space.

Kevin

Q wrote:

There is/was a rule about taking big objects (including cases) on the
LUL over a certain size.

I'm sure that would be fun for LUL to try and enforce, but maybe they
should - I would make life so much nicer for those people who don't want
running over and blocking by 4' rolling cases

I've seen posters reminding people of this rule at Tottenham Hale.
They were aimed at people trying to take flat-pack furniture home from
IKEA Edmonton.

Simon

Two basic rules govern the size of what you can take on the tube -
nothing over 2 metres (hence the old posters with that guy and his
inflatable crocodile) and nothing you cannot carry yourself. One of
the main flaws in this design, and indeed a major obstacle in improving
matters) is that LU has links to Heathrow, as well as other mainline
stations with airport connections, and thousands of people use the tube
to get to airports every day - with those annoying trolley bags!

The other week a fella turned up at work with a surfboard of all
things. He was flying from Heathrow and needed to take the board on
the plane... well, he should have checked before travelling, but still
it doesn't feel right, particularly late of an evening, to turn someone
down for carrying something that is about a mm over 2 metres.

Incidentally I didn't, but I warned him he'd probably not get far into
town with it...

incidentally, this should provide information for anyone who's
interested. most people aren't even aware that it exists.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...eptember06.pdf

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incidentally, this should provide information for anyone who's
interested. most people aren't even aware that it exists.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...ditions-of-Car
riage-September06.pdf


Brilliant, and I'm sure many items carried on the tube fall into the
"likely to cause an injury category". It's about time London Underground
started enforcing these rules.

--
Edward Cowling London UK

On 29 Sep 2006 08:06:29 -0700, wrote:


Q wrote:

There is/was a rule about taking big objects (including cases) on the
LUL over a certain size.

I'm sure that would be fun for LUL to try and enforce, but maybe they
should - I would make life so much nicer for those people who don't want
running over and blocking by 4' rolling cases

I've seen posters reminding people of this rule at Tottenham Hale.
They were aimed at people trying to take flat-pack furniture home from
IKEA Edmonton.

Once many years ago, when I lived in New York, I got on the subway and sat
down. A few stations later two people got on carrying a sofa (obviously they
were moving house on the cheap). They put the sofa in the area between doors
and sat down on it until they got to their stop, when they carried it off
again.

And I myself helped a friend move flats in Paris (he didn't have much
furniture, only personal effects). He was a clothing designer, and thus had
paraphernalia related to that profession.

Chris "Thus I found myself on the Métro carrying a dressmaker's dummy." Hansen
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Hansen writes

Once many years ago, when I lived in New York, I got on the subway and sat
down. A few stations later two people got on carrying a sofa (obviously they
were moving house on the cheap). They put the sofa in the area between doors
and sat down on it until they got to their stop, when they carried it off
again.

I've moved a divan bed (in two parts) and mattress across London by
tube. But not at peak time.

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http://congokid.com

Small backpacks don't usually bother me too much (I often carry a guitar
across London when I'm doing studio work, so I can't really complain)
but what really annoys me is the huge craze for square "suitcase on
wheels" thingies.

These things could become quite a hazard. Even in non-threatening
situations, like hurrying for a train, I'll judge my quickest route
across the station concourse (particularly Victoria) by scanning the
general movement of people's heads. If I see a gap, I'll make a beeline
for it. However, you don't see the slow moving suitcase-on-wheels until
you're practically falling over it. Imagine the same thing happening in
a stressful evacuation scenario.

Still, it *is* very satisfying to give the things a quick kick as you
dodge them... watch the owner try to wrestle it back on course ;-)


adrian

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Adrian Clark wrote:
Small backpacks don't usually bother me too much (I often carry a
guitar across London when I'm doing studio work, so I can't really
complain) but what really annoys me is the huge craze for square
"suitcase on wheels" thingies.

These things could become quite a hazard. Even in non-threatening
situations, like hurrying for a train, I'll judge my quickest route
across the station concourse (particularly Victoria) by scanning the
general movement of people's heads. If I see a gap, I'll make a
beeline for it. However, you don't see the slow moving
suitcase-on-wheels until you're practically falling over it.

If you're moving so fast that you're in danger of "falling over" a large
suitcase that you've failed to notice, it sounds as if your speed
through a crowded concourse is itself a hazard. Don't complain about
other people if you can't be bothered to adjust your speed to the
conditions.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)