Neil S wrote:
Mike Scott wrote:

wrote:
...

That's an interesting conundrum, given so many roads. If the lights
change too often, a high proportion of the green phase is soaked up by
people daydreaming before they realise the lights have turned green. If
you make the green phase longer, it takes proportionately longer for
one's turn to come round again. So the more efficient process is
subjectively worse, and may even lead to people jumping the lights in
frustration.


Would the solution be a roundabout?

I don't know the junction, so this may be a rubbish suggestion. Seems
to work adequately for the only seven road junction I know.

Look at Trafalgar Square on Google maps.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1...05055,0.009978

Charles piece wrote:
In message , Anthony R. Gold
writes
Yes, the Extension will start on 19 February 2007, but the claim was made
that someone was tampering with lights in order to create congestion prior
to the start of the scheme and that seems unlikely in view of the agendas
of those with the power to do that.
I think I'll just stay in West Cumbria, where a traffic jam is six cars
waiting for the lights to go green.
--
Clive.

lol, yeah I was down in sleepy Redruth last Friday at around 4.30pm
with my father-in-law (a local) in the car.

As we sat behind all of four cars at a set of lights in the centre of
town, he shook his head and announced "so many cars on the roads down
here nowadays, it's a nightmare".

We'd just travelled 22 miles from Penzance in around 20 minutes and yet
he was convinced the roads were gridlocked...................bless. I
think I'd have given him a heart attack if I'd explained that, even
using M5, M4 and M32, it still takes me 65 minutes to travel 9 miles up
here during rush hour.

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:54:14 +0100, "Ian F."
wrote:

"Earl Purple" wrote in message
oups.com...

Brompton is an area in SW London fairly near to Chelsea.

There's an oratory, a cemetery and a road all called Brompton, but I've
never heard anyone refer to an area called Brompton, and I've lived in
south London for over 50 years.

It's not south of the river.

I live 210 miles away and I haven't been to London for 15 years other
than to one single customer (Bart's Hospital) and then a quick about
turn and back north via the Angle Iron and/or Arseway Road.

However I do have vague recollections from 25 years back of a customer
at the Brompton Hospital.

To get there I went down the Brompton Road.

Have I missed something? Is it more difficult than that ?

DG

John Rowland wrote:
Anthony R. Gold wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:08:18 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

I have been assured by someone who lives in Brompton that the
traffic lights all over what will soon be the Western Extension of
the congestion charging area seem to have been recently modified
to create lots of traffic jams that weren't there before. This is
the same thing that was widely alleged to have been done in the
central area prior to introducing congestion charging there.

Dunno what or where "Brompton" is, but if it's around Brompton
Cross SW3 then those lights are managed by the borough (RBK&C) which
opposes the extension and has no incentive to exaggerate
the success of the scheme.

The person in question lives in Brompton Square, and although I'm
not sure exactly which traffic lights they had in mind, Brompton
Square is just off the A4, whose traffic lights are controlled by
TfL.

Note that ALL traffic lights in London are managed by Transport for
London, whether they are on a TfL road or a borough road, so if any
rephasing has been done, it's been done by TfL which reports to Ken
Livingstone.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Derek ^" wrote in message
...

It's not south of the river.

Er, I know. I meant south London - as opposed to west, north or east
London.

To get there I went down the Brompton Road.

Have I missed something? Is it more difficult than that ?

I mentioned there was a road, but I didn't think there was an area called
Brompton. Clearly, I was wrong.

Ian

"JNugent" wrote in message
...

Brompton isn't in South London.

Yes it is. It's in south-west London.

Ian

"Mike Scott" wrote in message
...

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...179500&A=Y&Z=3

Clearly, I stand corrected. You're never to old to learn, I guess.

Or is that just the church/oratory?

Ian

Ian F. wrote:
"Mike Scott" wrote in
message ...

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...179500&A=Y&Z=3

Clearly, I stand corrected. You're never to old to learn, I guess.

Or is that just the church/oratory?

This is you standing corrected?

"John Rowland" wrote in message
...

This is you standing corrected?

I'm not sure.

Ian

Ian F. wrote:
"JNugent" wrote in message
...

Brompton isn't in South London.

Yes it is. It's in south-west London.

If by that you mean it has an SW postcode, you must be one of the very
few people to regard Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, 10 Downing
Street, and Whitehall as being in South London.

AFAIK the usual definition is that given in Wikipedia: "South London ...
is the entire area of Greater London south of the River Thames".

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)