On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:46:44 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

AFAIK the usual definition is that given in Wikipedia: "South London ...
is the entire area of Greater London south of the River Thames".

That's certainly how I understand the consensus.

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Richard J. wrote:
Ian F. wrote:
"JNugent" wrote in message
...

Brompton isn't in South London.

Yes it is. It's in south-west London.

If by that you mean it has an SW postcode, you must be one of the very
few people to regard Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, 10 Downing
Street, and Whitehall as being in South London.

AFAIK the usual definition is that given in Wikipedia: "South London
... is the entire area of Greater London south of the River Thames".

Since it can be added to by absolutely anyone, Wikipedia is hardly to be
regarded as an authoritative source.

When originally introduced in 1857 the London Postal Districts were only
lettered. London was also a considerably smaller place then with very little
south of the river. The numbering wasn't added until WW1.

The Post Office also uses a different criteria from the rest of us with
postal districts that bear little or no relationship to local authority or
town boundaries.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....900plate3.html


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The best car safety device is a rear-view mirror with a cop in it. -
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Brimstone wrote:

Richard J. wrote:
Ian F. wrote:
"JNugent" wrote:

Brompton isn't in South London.

Yes it is. It's in south-west London.

If by that you mean it has an SW postcode, you must be one of the very
few people to regard Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, 10 Downing
Street, and Whitehall as being in South London.

AFAIK the usual definition is that given in Wikipedia: "South London
... is the entire area of Greater London south of the River Thames".

Since it can be added to by absolutely anyone, Wikipedia is hardly to be
regarded as an authoritative source.

That is true.

However, on this occasion and on this topic, whoever provided the
definition of "South London" was absolutely correct. Whilst there is no
formal definition of "South London" (indeed, there is no "S" postal area,
even though "E", "N" and "W" exist), everyone recognises the term to mean
London south of the Thames. Brompton is not in South London, any more than
is Chelsea, Piccadilly Circus or the Science Museum (all in "London SW").

JNugent ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

(indeed, there is no "S" postal area, even though "E", "N" and "W"
exist)

There most certainly is. I grew up in S17.

You'll be claiming there's no NE postal area next, despite there being SE,
SW, N and NW...

JNugent wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

Richard J. wrote:
Ian F. wrote:
"JNugent" wrote:

Brompton isn't in South London.

Yes it is. It's in south-west London.

If by that you mean it has an SW postcode, you must be one of the
very few people to regard Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace,
10 Downing Street, and Whitehall as being in South London.

AFAIK the usual definition is that given in Wikipedia: "South
London ... is the entire area of Greater London south of the
River Thames".

Since it can be added to by absolutely anyone, Wikipedia is hardly
to be regarded as an authoritative source.

That is true.

However, on this occasion and on this topic, whoever provided the
definition of "South London" was absolutely correct. Whilst there
is no formal definition of "South London" (indeed, there is no "S"
postal area, even though "E", "N" and "W" exist), everyone
recognises the term to mean London south of the Thames. Brompton is
not in South London, any more than is Chelsea, Piccadilly Circus or
the Science Museum (all in "London SW").

Agreed, except that Piccadilly Circus is (just) in W1.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Adrian wrote:

JNugent ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

(indeed, there is no "S" postal area, even though "E", "N" and "W"
exist)

There most certainly is. I grew up in S17.

Really? Where is it?

Doesn't it also have either an SE or a SW postcode?

You'll be claiming there's no NE postal area next, despite there being SE,
SW, N and NW...

There used to be a NE area (I have seen historical evidence of it, around
Tottenham, IIRC), but it doesn't exist today.

It's important to remember that all the London postal areas (in fact all
postal codes) are the administrative invention of the Post Office and have
no real official life beyond that. They're handy though.

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:30:54 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

Adrian wrote:

JNugent ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

(indeed, there is no "S" postal area, even though "E", "N" and "W"
exist)

There most certainly is. I grew up in S17.

Really? Where is it?

Sheffield, IIRC.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

JNugent ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

(indeed, there is no "S" postal area, even though "E", "N" and "W"
exist)

There most certainly is. I grew up in S17.

Really? Where is it?

Sheffield.

Doesn't it also have either an SE or a SW postcode?

No. It's really quite a long way north of the Thames. About 150 miles.

You'll be claiming there's no NE postal area next, despite there
being SE, SW, N and NW...

There used to be a NE area (I have seen historical evidence of it,
around Tottenham, IIRC), but it doesn't exist today.

Yes, it does. Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

JNugent wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

Richard J. wrote:
Ian F. wrote:
"JNugent" wrote:

Brompton isn't in South London.

Yes it is. It's in south-west London.

If by that you mean it has an SW postcode, you must be one of the
very few people to regard Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, 10
Downing Street, and Whitehall as being in South London.

AFAIK the usual definition is that given in Wikipedia: "South London
... is the entire area of Greater London south of the River Thames".

Since it can be added to by absolutely anyone, Wikipedia is hardly
to be regarded as an authoritative source.

That is true.

However, on this occasion and on this topic, whoever provided the
definition of "South London" was absolutely correct. Whilst there is
no formal definition of "South London" (indeed, there is no "S"
postal area, even though "E", "N" and "W" exist), everyone recognises
the term to mean London south of the Thames. Brompton is not in South
London, any more than is Chelsea, Piccadilly Circus or the Science
Museum (all in "London SW").

But in the part you very assiduously snipped, I mentioned that the Post
Office has it's own ideas about what towns etc fall within what postal
areas. Hence Aberystwyth has a Shrewsbury postcode, the Isle of Skye falls
within Inverness and Boston is supposedly somewhere within the influence of
Peterborough.

Thus what the Post Office considers to be the limits of south-west London
and what the rest of the world considers them to be are not necessarily the
same thing.

--
The best car safety device is a rear-view mirror with a cop in it. -
Dudley Moore

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:42:24 +0100, "Brimstone"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

Richard J. wrote:
Ian F. wrote:
"JNugent" wrote:

Brompton isn't in South London.

Yes it is. It's in south-west London.

If by that you mean it has an SW postcode, you must be one of the
very few people to regard Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, 10
Downing Street, and Whitehall as being in South London.

AFAIK the usual definition is that given in Wikipedia: "South London
... is the entire area of Greater London south of the River Thames".

Since it can be added to by absolutely anyone, Wikipedia is hardly
to be regarded as an authoritative source.

That is true.

However, on this occasion and on this topic, whoever provided the
definition of "South London" was absolutely correct. Whilst there is
no formal definition of "South London" (indeed, there is no "S"
postal area, even though "E", "N" and "W" exist), everyone recognises
the term to mean London south of the Thames. Brompton is not in South
London, any more than is Chelsea, Piccadilly Circus or the Science
Museum (all in "London SW").

But in the part you very assiduously snipped, I mentioned that the Post
Office has it's own ideas about what towns etc fall within what postal
areas. Hence Aberystwyth has a Shrewsbury postcode, the Isle of Skye falls
within Inverness and Boston is supposedly somewhere within the influence of
Peterborough.

Thus what the Post Office considers to be the limits of south-west London
and what the rest of the world considers them to be are not necessarily the
same thing.

But notably, "South-west London" is not generally considered to be a
subset of "South London", IME.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com