Mizter T wrote:
BBC News "Bid to make London walk-friendly"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6032969.stm

"More than 44% of pedestrians use the Tube map to navigate around
London, according to a study by TfL [...]


The most interesting line in this story for me is that there are "A
myriad of confusing pedestrian signs". Admittedly some pedestrian signs
can be a bit confusing but except around the most tourist-y areas it is
hard to think of places where there are a myriad of pedestrian signs of
any sort.

--
Each day a man watched a donkey walk past a high wood fence with one
plank removed. Each day he saw a nose, then the ears, then the neck,
forequarters, back and finally the tail. He pondered this for a time
and eventually declared. “I understand now. The nose causes the tail”

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Paul G) wrote:

and for a bit of a laugh you can use the TfL Journey Planner's
cycle tick box options. Most routes are slightly bizarre, I
suspect due to the weighting it gives to various road types, but I
did use it and find a lovely off-main-road route which I probably
wouldn't have found otherwise, for my daily commute.

I found it pretty useless for improving my long distance route, from
Westminster to Putney, to be honest. It either suggested what i was
already using or some strange and lengthy diversions.

Surely if it suggested a route you have found suitable, it has
accomplished its goal of highlighting the best ways to cycle from A to B?

--
Dave Arquati
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Paul G) wrote:

and for a bit of a laugh you can use the TfL Journey Planner's
cycle tick box options. Most routes are slightly bizarre, I
suspect due to the weighting it gives to various road types, but I
did use it and find a lovely off-main-road route which I probably
wouldn't have found otherwise, for my daily commute.

I found it pretty useless for improving my long distance route, from
Westminster to Putney, to be honest. It either suggested what i was
already using or some strange and lengthy diversions.

Surely if it suggested a route you have found suitable, it has
accomplished its goal of highlighting the best ways to cycle from A to B?


Quite. I don't have a Putney to Westminster cycle route stored in my
head as, unlike Colin, it's not a journey I regularly make - so whilst
I could patch together a vague idea from the mental map in my head I'd
prefer to get some ideas from the Journey Planner (or a cycle map - but
I don't necessarily have those with me).

In article , (Dave
Arquati) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Paul G) wrote:

and for a bit of a laugh you can use the TfL Journey Planner's
cycle tick box options. Most routes are slightly bizarre, I
suspect due to the weighting it gives to various road types, but
I did use it and find a lovely off-main-road route which I
probably wouldn't have found otherwise, for my daily commute.

I found it pretty useless for improving my long distance route,
from Westminster to Putney, to be honest. It either suggested
what i was already using or some strange and lengthy diversions.

Surely if it suggested a route you have found suitable, it has
accomplished its goal of highlighting the best ways to cycle from A
to B?

Maybe I didn't put that very clearly.

It only suggests one route. Parts are the same as I had worked out for
myself while other bits involve long and complicated detours, mainly
round Clapham Junction, that make little sense to me.

The reason I say that is that I've used some of the alternatives when I
actually wanted to go to Clapham Junction a couple of times so I had a
chance to compare some of them.

Basically I go along York Road and Battersea Park Road, much of which
has bus lanes or the odd cycle lane. Some is a signed LCN route.

--
Colin Rosenstiel