Mizter T wrote:
Stephen Farrow wrote:

Jon wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
From the maps on the cclondon website, it looks like the western extension
will include a number of cul-de-sacs, and similar, off the inside of the
cordon, for instance Blantyre Street, Childs Street, Redfield Lane, Lawrence
Street, Embankment Gardens etc. I find this hard to understand. How much
does each camera cost? Since Childs Street contains nothing but houses, all
of whose residents will qualify for the exemption, I wonder how long it will
take the Childs Street camera to pay for itself, or whether it will ever pay
for itself.
Could it be to stop people using these roads as zone-edge car parks ?
If they're off the *inside* of the cordon, probably not.


Not sure exactly what you mean by that Stephen.

If access to the cul-de-sacs in question is from inside the zone, which
the original message suggested it was ("off the inside of the cordon",
as opposed to, say, "cul-de-sacs/dead-end streets extending into the
congestion zone"), then the reason for installing cameras on those
streets would be unlikely to be to stop people from using the streets as
free edge-of-zone parking, since they'd have to drive into the zone to
get to those streets anyway.

--

Stephen

If I believed in fairy tales I never would have dropped out of kindergarten.

Stephen Farrow wrote:
Mizter T wrote:
Stephen Farrow wrote:

Jon wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
From the maps on the cclondon website, it looks like the
western extension will include a number of cul-de-sacs, and
similar, off the inside of the cordon, for instance Blantyre
Street, Childs Street, Redfield Lane, Lawrence Street,
Embankment Gardens etc. I find this hard to understand. How
much does each camera cost? Since Childs Street contains
nothing but houses, all of whose residents will qualify for the
exemption, I wonder how long it will take the Childs Street
camera to pay for itself, or whether it will ever pay for
itself.
Could it be to stop people using these roads as zone-edge car
parks ?
If they're off the *inside* of the cordon, probably not.


Not sure exactly what you mean by that Stephen.

If access to the cul-de-sacs in question is from inside the zone,
which the original message suggested it was ("off the inside of the
cordon", as opposed to, say, "cul-de-sacs/dead-end streets extending
into the congestion zone"), then the reason for installing cameras on
those streets would be unlikely to be to stop
people from using the streets as free edge-of-zone parking, since
they'd have to drive into the zone to get to those streets anyway.

You don't seem to realise that the "cordon" itself is outside the zone,
the boundary being on its inner edge. So the cul-de-sacs can only be
entered from outside the zone, but are themselves within it.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Stephen Farrow wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
Stephen Farrow wrote:

Jon wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
From the maps on the cclondon website, it looks like the western extension
will include a number of cul-de-sacs, and similar, off the inside of the
cordon, for instance Blantyre Street, Childs Street, Redfield Lane, Lawrence
Street, Embankment Gardens etc. I find this hard to understand. How much
does each camera cost? Since Childs Street contains nothing but houses, all
of whose residents will qualify for the exemption, I wonder how long it will
take the Childs Street camera to pay for itself, or whether it will ever pay
for itself.
Could it be to stop people using these roads as zone-edge car parks ?
If they're off the *inside* of the cordon, probably not.


Not sure exactly what you mean by that Stephen.

If access to the cul-de-sacs in question is from inside the zone, which
the original message suggested it was ("off the inside of the cordon",
as opposed to, say, "cul-de-sacs/dead-end streets extending into the
congestion zone"), then the reason for installing cameras on those
streets would be unlikely to be to stop people from using the streets as
free edge-of-zone parking, since they'd have to drive into the zone to
get to those streets anyway.


The OP was referring to cul-de-sacs that ingress into the zone from
uncharged boundary roads. I'm not going to get into quibbles about the
terminology used! To be honest I had a fair idea of what he was on
about but on reading his post I immediately looked those examples up on
a map so I had an explicit understanding of his point.

See Childs Street for yourself via Multiimap
http://tinyurl.com/y3azr5 and all will be clear.