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In message , John Rowland
writes I discovered Brent Terrace (the Cricklewood end) this afternoon. Most of the east side has no houses. The houses on the west side are all built backwards, with their back gardens facing the road, and their fronts facing the railway. The only explanation I can think of is that there was originally a road where the railway sidings are now, and when this old road was removed, Brent Terrace was built as a substitute access for the already existing houses. Does anyone know the real story? Bacon's London Atlas (1923) shows the original name of the road as "Midland Bren[t] Terrace" so I guess they were originally railway houses facing the depot and built on Midland Railway property. Individual houses in Midland Brent Terrace are clearly shown in this atlas, and there is a railway shunting neck *very* close indeed on the railway side - no room for a road there at all. For a scan see: http://www.musonix.demon.co.uk/temp/Brent1.JPG Bartholomew's 1913 atlas (showing the area before the North Circular was driven through) is less detailed, but shows no sign of an additional road on the railway side: http://www.musonix.demon.co.uk/temp/Brent2.JPG HTH -- Paul Terry |
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Paul Terry wrote:
In message , John Rowland writes I discovered Brent Terrace (the Cricklewood end) this afternoon. Most of the east side has no houses. The houses on the west side are all built backwards, with their back gardens facing the road, and their fronts facing the railway. The only explanation I can think of is that there was originally a road where the railway sidings are now, and when this old road was removed, Brent Terrace was built as a substitute access for the already existing houses. Does anyone know the real story? Bacon's London Atlas (1923) shows the original name of the road as "Midland Bren[t] Terrace" so I guess they were originally railway houses facing the depot and built on Midland Railway property. Individual houses in Midland Brent Terrace are clearly shown in this atlas, and there is a railway shunting neck *very* close indeed on the railway side - no room for a road there at all. For a scan see: http://www.musonix.demon.co.uk/temp/Brent1.JPG Bartholomew's 1913 atlas (showing the area before the North Circular was driven through) is less detailed, but shows no sign of an additional road on the railway side: http://www.musonix.demon.co.uk/temp/Brent2.JPG If you go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk and enter 523500,186512 in the search box and click on Coordinates, you get an 1873 map of the same area. There are no houses, no road and no sidings. So the key period for further investigation is 1873-1913. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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"Paul Terry" wrote in message
... http://www.musonix.demon.co.uk/temp/Brent1.JPG http://www.musonix.demon.co.uk/temp/Brent2.JPG HTH It does indeed, thanks a lot! It would appear that the road has always done this. I see that the Brent Reservoir has shrunk. I hope it's not going to go the way of the Aral Sea ;-) -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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John Rowland:
I see that the Brent Reservoir has shrunk. Stuart Johnson: A number of references give the size of the reservoir at an early date as being between 350 and 400 acres, most of these being published between 1869 and 1913. ... Subsequently the size of the reservoir has been decreased by infilling ... [eventually] to the present 125 acres. One wonders if the depth has been increased. -- Mark Brader | "Sir, your composure baffles me. A single counterexample Toronto | refutes a conjecture as effectively as ten... Hands up! | You have to surrender." -- Imre Lakatos |
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"Stuart Johnson" wrote in message
news ![]() the size of the reservoir has been decreased by infilling The mind boggles... They find the valley near London best suited for damming, they dam it and flood it, and then they gradually fill it in! If they no longer need all of the original reservoir, wouldn't it be cheaper to just let some water out? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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"Andrew" wrote in message
... "John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Stuart Johnson" wrote in message news ![]() the size of the reservoir has been decreased by infilling The mind boggles... They find the valley near London best suited for damming, they dam it and flood it, and then they gradually fill it in! If they no longer need all of the original reservoir, wouldn't it be cheaper to just let some water out? IIf so, what would be wrong with leaving it in ? You wouldn't be able to build on the land! -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:53:33 +0100, Nick Pedley wrote:
Welsh Harp? Was there a station of that name nearby? I've heard about/seen various pics of 'xxxx train passing thru Welsh Harp London-bound' but can't find anything about it... Yes. Welsh Harp Station opened in 1870 by the Midland Railway apparently. http://www.brentres.com/history.htm David |
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