Ok, this is probably nothing more than just internet gossip and rumour,
but what else is the internet really for?

Anyway, the rumour is that a decision on an extension of the DLR to
Charing Cross will be made on 30th Oct with a projected completion date
of 'before 2020'.

And I've absolutely no sources to show you - like I said, it's just
complete rumour ('man in the pub said..'). Someone else here may know
more about it?

Stevie wrote:
Ok, this is probably nothing more than just internet gossip and rumour,
but what else is the internet really for?

Anyway, the rumour is that a decision on an extension of the DLR to
Charing Cross will be made on 30th Oct with a projected completion date
of 'before 2020'.

And I've absolutely no sources to show you - like I said, it's just
complete rumour ('man in the pub said..'). Someone else here may know
more about it?

Rumours are around as that corridor has always had a line of sorts.
Called the Fleet line if I remember.

It was rumoured at some point to be the extension to the Jubilee line
before the Docklands took off and they decided to run it through there.

But. What use is an extension to Charing Cross. The District line from
either Monument or Tower Gateway fulfils that brief quite adequately.
DLR is far better off being extended elsewhere.

However I wouldn't put it passed Ken to spend millions putting back old
railway lines. ;-)

A.

Londoncityslicker wrote:


Rumours are around as that corridor has always had a line of sorts.
Called the Fleet line if I remember.


However I wouldn't put it passed Ken to spend millions putting back old
railway lines. ;-)


The Fleet Line was the original name of the Jubilee Line. The intention
was to extend the Jubilee Line via Aldwych rather than via Waterloo but
apart from tunnels extending from the now-disused platforms at Charing
Cross none of it actually exsists. There's no 'old railway line' to open.

There was a discussion here a while back about the pros and cons of the
DLR extension to Charing X. The use of the jubilee line platforms at
charing cross and the lift shafts at Aldwych would lower the cost of
doing it from scratch, but AIUI the platform at Bank points north
instead of west

Stuart wrote:
Londoncityslicker wrote:


Rumours are around as that corridor has always had a line of sorts.
Called the Fleet line if I remember.


However I wouldn't put it passed Ken to spend millions putting back old
railway lines. ;-)


The Fleet Line was the original name of the Jubilee Line. The intention
was to extend the Jubilee Line via Aldwych rather than via Waterloo but
apart from tunnels extending from the now-disused platforms at Charing
Cross none of it actually exsists. There's no 'old railway line' to open.

There was a discussion here a while back about the pros and cons of the
DLR extension to Charing X. The use of the jubilee line platforms at
charing cross and the lift shafts at Aldwych would lower the cost of
doing it from scratch, but AIUI the platform at Bank points north
instead of west


It definitely wouldn't be extended from Bank, it would be a new branch.

Stuart wrote:
Londoncityslicker wrote:


Rumours are around as that corridor has always had a line of sorts.
Called the Fleet line if I remember.

However I wouldn't put it passed Ken to spend millions putting back
old railway lines. ;-)


The Fleet Line was the original name of the Jubilee Line. The
intention was to extend the Jubilee Line via Aldwych rather than via
Waterloo but apart from tunnels extending from the now-disused
platforms at Charing Cross none of it actually exsists. There's no
'old railway line' to open.

Because of deep foundations, few alignments for railways in the city are now
possible. The alignment from Fenchurch Street to Charing Cross was
safeguarded for the River/Fleet line, and so survived development for
decades. The office block on Cannon Street station was even built with a
hole through the foundations for the railway to fit through. The alignment
might even still be safeguarded, for all I know. So you could say that the
"old railway line" is still there on paper waiting to be opened.

Stuart wrote:
doing it from scratch, but AIUI the platform at Bank points north
instead of west

That doesn't matter. DLR trains can go around some pretty severe curves
so what might be an issue for a tube line is a no brainer for the DLR.
Judging by the curves in the docklands area they could have the train
running west again in as little as 50 metres.

B2003

Stuart wrote:
apart from tunnels extending from the now-disused platforms at Charing
Cross

Disused for passengers but probably a little goldmine for LU judging by
the number of times they keep popping up in adverts and films. And
then theres to useful stabling and reversing facilities they provide.
My guess is LU would be somewhat reluctant to lose them.

B2003

Boltar wrote:

Disused for passengers but probably a little goldmine for LU judging by
the number of times they keep popping up in adverts and films. And
then theres to useful stabling and reversing facilities they provide.
My guess is LU would be somewhat reluctant to lose them.

Is there so much demand for filming etc. that they need both CX and
Aldwych?

Neil

Neil Williams wrote:
Boltar wrote:

Disused for passengers but probably a little goldmine for LU judging by
the number of times they keep popping up in adverts and films. And
then theres to useful stabling and reversing facilities they provide.
My guess is LU would be somewhat reluctant to lose them.

Is there so much demand for filming etc. that they need both CX and
Aldwych?

I would say so, and we would soon get sick of seeing just Aldwych
representing all underground staions!:-) (Last saw CHX standing in for
Stockwell for a Panarama re-enactment of the shooting there, dont think
it would have looked right using Aldwych for that)

I think John has hit the nail on the head when he says [Apart from
Crossrail 1 and 2] this is possibly the only alignment left through the
middle of London and it could be a case of use it or lose it.

Boltar wrote:

Stuart wrote:
apart from tunnels extending from the now-disused platforms at Charing
Cross

Disused for passengers but probably a little goldmine for LU judging by
the number of times they keep popping up in adverts and films. And
then theres to useful stabling and reversing facilities they provide.
My guess is LU would be somewhat reluctant to lose them.

B2003

AIUI the Jubilee line doesn't use CX for day to day operational
purposes (I don't think they use it to stable trains there at all). And
the LU film unit certainly doesn't have a veto on big infrastructure
projects even if it means they lose a film set! So both of those
'concerns' regarding such a proposal are not important.

I'd say the real questions are - (1) is a DLR extension to CX a good
idea, and if so (2) is there any chance the Treasury will loosen their
purse strings and stump up for it?