In article ,
lid (asdf) wrote:

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:49 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Colin
Rosenstiel wrote:

I'm a bit curious as to what this bit means:

"Travelling to Wimbledon by Tram using Oyster

You must touch in at the start of your tram journey and touch out
at the gate when leaving Wimbledon station (or on one of the card
readers on Platform 1 - 4 if transferring to the Tube)
Do not touch your card on the yellow reader adjacent to the manual
gate when leaving the station."

What is the difference between "the gate when leaving Wimbledon
station" and "the manual gate when leaving the station"?

The readers on the automatic gates are set to "exit only". The
reader by the manual gate (big black gate at the side, used for people
with luggage, wheelchairs, etc) is set for "exit only" while the gate is
closed, and "entry or exit" while the gate is open.

Presumably, if you touch the reader in "entry or exit" mode, its
logic decides you are making an entry, and creates a new Tube journey.

How confusing to someone who is not a regular traveller. Just where
Oyster can be a bit of a nightmare.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(Ian F.) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...

Indeed. Why no local number? There is absolutely no excuse not to
have an 020 number nowadays. Even I have one!

020 7227 7886 is the number listed at http://www.saynoto0870.com

Thanks. Noted down for future reference. That really is a local number
at work. We have an 020 7227 DDI range there with the main number on 020
7222 like at 55 Broadway.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

A Tramlink validation allows you to open the exit gates at
Wimbledon, but tram journeys do not require touching out, so there is
no revenue implication.

The manual gate validator will regard a touch as starting a new
tube PAYG journey.

But what is its purpose by the exit gate?

I presume so that people with pushchairs/cases/etc... from the tube can
touch out.

In article ,
(Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

A Tramlink validation allows you to open the exit gates at
Wimbledon, but tram journeys do not require touching out, so
there is no revenue implication.

The manual gate validator will regard a touch as starting a new
tube PAYG journey.

But what is its purpose by the exit gate?

I presume so that people with pushchairs/cases/etc... from the tube
can touch out.

Except that the FAQ tells you not to touch out on it because it will
regard a touch as starting a new tube PAYG journey!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

I presume so that people with pushchairs/cases/etc... from the tube
can touch out.

Except that the FAQ tells you not to touch out on it because it will
regard a touch as starting a new tube PAYG journey!

That's if you have arrived at Wimbledon by tram.

In article ,
(Matthew Dickinson) wrote:

I presume so that people with pushchairs/cases/etc... from the
tube can touch out.

Except that the FAQ tells you not to touch out on it because it
will regard a touch as starting a new tube PAYG journey!

That's if you have arrived at Wimbledon by tram.

And if you arrived by tram with a pushchair etc. Then what?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:20 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Matthew Dickinson) wrote:

I presume so that people with pushchairs/cases/etc... from the
tube can touch out.

Except that the FAQ tells you not to touch out on it because it
will regard a touch as starting a new tube PAYG journey!

That's if you have arrived at Wimbledon by tram.

And if you arrived by tram with a pushchair etc. Then what?

Then you tell the gate attendant that you arrived by tram, and are let
out without touching the validator.

In article ,
(Matthew Dickinson) wrote:

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:20 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Matthew Dickinson) wrote:

I presume so that people with pushchairs/cases/etc... from
the tube can touch out.

Except that the FAQ tells you not to touch out on it because it
will regard a touch as starting a new tube PAYG journey!

That's if you have arrived at Wimbledon by tram.

And if you arrived by tram with a pushchair etc. Then what?

Then you tell the gate attendant that you arrived by tram, and are
let out without touching the validator.

There are signs telling you not to touch out then?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

And if you arrived by tram with a pushchair etc. Then what?

Then you tell the gate attendant that you arrived by tram, and are
let out without touching the validator.

There are signs telling you not to touch out then?

As far as I know it's just mentioned in leaflets and the FAQ.

asdf wrote
[...]
Whoever your provider is, 0845 is almost certainly (considerably)
more
expensive than local rate. It's a sort of premium rate number, where
some of the cost of the call goes to the person you're calling.

If you are on the LUS or a basic business tariff and live in Grantham
or Cambridge 0845 will be cheaper.

Officially offering both an 0845 and 020 7227 7886 is the best policy.

--
Mike D