This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some
searching on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL
sell a one day travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to
travel on National Rail? It seems any of the arguments involving poor
Oyster facilities on NR would also apply to period travelcards. The only
thing I can think of is that it might confuse customers who can't figure
out the difference with capping.
--
Michael Hoffman

In message , Michael Hoffman
writes
This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some
searching on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL
sell a one day travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to
travel on National Rail? It seems any of the arguments involving poor
Oyster facilities on NR would also apply to period travelcards. The
only thing I can think of is that it might confuse customers who can't
figure out the difference with capping.

I think the real reason (whether stated or not) is to stop people
queuing up on a daily basis just to buy 1 ticket; far most cost
effective (for the retailer) to get them to buy more than 1 ticket in
any transaction.

I know that people do still queue up to put on exactly one day's worth
of credit, but I'm willing to bet that quite a few (percentage wise)
have now got used to oyster and are prepared to buy a number of day's
worth of credit in any one go. "Incentivisation" by lack of alternative.

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

Paul G wrote:

In message , Michael Hoffman
writes
This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some
searching on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL
sell a one day travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to
travel on National Rail? It seems any of the arguments involving poor
Oyster facilities on NR would also apply to period travelcards. The
only thing I can think of is that it might confuse customers who can't
figure out the difference with capping.

I think the real reason (whether stated or not) is to stop people
queuing up on a daily basis just to buy 1 ticket; far most cost
effective (for the retailer) to get them to buy more than 1 ticket in
any transaction.

I know that people do still queue up to put on exactly one day's worth
of credit, but I'm willing to bet that quite a few (percentage wise)
have now got used to oyster and are prepared to buy a number of day's
worth of credit in any one go. "Incentivisation" by lack of alternative.

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

Paul G,

I don't understand your reply: by definition, those who want to buy a
1-day Travelcard still have to queue up on a daily basis just to buy
one ticket, i.e. a paper Travelcard.

Marc.

Paul G wrote:

In message , Michael Hoffman
writes
This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some
searching on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL
sell a one day travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to
travel on National Rail? It seems any of the arguments involving poor
Oyster facilities on NR would also apply to period travelcards. The
only thing I can think of is that it might confuse customers who can't
figure out the difference with capping.

I think the real reason (whether stated or not) is to stop people
queuing up on a daily basis just to buy 1 ticket; far most cost
effective (for the retailer) to get them to buy more than 1 ticket in
any transaction.

I know that people do still queue up to put on exactly one day's worth
of credit, but I'm willing to bet that quite a few (percentage wise)
have now got used to oyster and are prepared to buy a number of day's
worth of credit in any one go. "Incentivisation" by lack of alternative.

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

Paul G,

I don't understand your reply: by definition, those who want to buy a
1-day Travelcard still have to queue up on a daily basis just to buy
one ticket, i.e. a paper Travelcard.

Marc.

Paul G wrote:
In message , Michael Hoffman
writes
This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some
searching on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL
sell a one day travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to
travel on National Rail? It seems any of the arguments involving poor
Oyster facilities on NR would also apply to period travelcards. The
only thing I can think of is that it might confuse customers who can't
figure out the difference with capping.

I think the real reason (whether stated or not) is to stop people
queuing up on a daily basis just to buy 1 ticket; far most cost
effective (for the retailer) to get them to buy more than 1 ticket in
any transaction.

I know that people do still queue up to put on exactly one day's worth
of credit, but I'm willing to bet that quite a few (percentage wise)
have now got used to oyster and are prepared to buy a number of day's
worth of credit in any one go. "Incentivisation" by lack of alternative.

I think the OP would like to be able to just buy it from anywhere that
allows oyster top-up, so they wouldn't necessarily need to queue at a
station.

It would make sense to have such a facility available also by mobile
phone, for those who are not starting their journey near such a
facility.

This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some searching
on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL sell a one day
travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to travel on National
Rail? It seems any of the arguments involving poor Oyster facilities on NR
would also apply to period travelcards. The only thing I can think of is
that it might confuse customers who can't figure out the difference with
capping.

It certainly has been discussed but I am not sure that a definitive answer
has been provided or even a consensus of opinion beyond a suspicion that it
probably isn't worth the effort or the hassle that any extra confusion may
cause, and that is certainly my suspicion.

It does seem like it ought to be possible to implement a one day travelcard
as a one day period travelcard though perhaps the system doesn't have the
concept of an off-peak only period travelcard. If it could be implemented
any such cards presumably would have to be located in the two (?) period
travelcard slots on the Oyster card and that might be considered rather
inflexible and a source of confusion. I know I have bought two or three one
day travelcards in advance in my more organised moments and there have been
occasions when I've wanted a couple of one day cards when I've already got a
period travelcard and that wouldn't be possible.

G.

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:32:02 +0000, Michael Hoffman wrote:

This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some
searching on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL
sell a one day travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to
travel on National Rail?

What would be the point?

asdf wrote:
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:32:02 +0000, Michael Hoffman wrote:

This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some
searching on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL
sell a one day travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to
travel on National Rail?

What would be the point?

What's the point of being able to buy weekly travelcards on Oyster?

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:57:33 +0000, Michael Hoffman wrote:

This *must* have been discussed here before, but I've done some
searching on Google Groups and can't find the answer. Why doesn't TfL
sell a one day travelcard on Oyster, to be used by those who need to
travel on National Rail?

What would be the point?

What's the point of being able to buy weekly travelcards on Oyster?

Buy or renew online, buy or renew at ticket machines, PAYG ticket
extensions.

OK, so there'd be one advantage: you'd be able to buy a One Day
Travelcard online (before 2300 the night before) and pick it up at a
nominated station. Any others?

asdf wrote:

Buy or renew online, buy or renew at ticket machines, PAYG ticket
extensions.

OK, so there'd be one advantage: you'd be able to buy a One Day
Travelcard online (before 2300 the night before) and pick it up at a
nominated station. Any others?

That's the main advantage (as identified by another poster). Not having
to fiddle with a paper ticket is another. PAYG ticket extensions would
also be useful, specially for a peak day travelcard.