With an Oyster Card does it still follow fares cheaper after 9:30am week
days?

Craig

C wrote:

With an Oyster Card does it still follow fares cheaper after 9:30am week
days?

Craig

Yes and no.

On the buses an Oyster single costs £1 before 0930 and 80p afterwards,
with a daily cap of £3 if you just use buses on that day. (Note - from
2 January 2007 the Oyster single will cost £1 whatever the time of the
day, though the daily cap will remain at £3).

On the Tube (include in this the DLR and the few National Rail routes
that accept Oyster PAYG) then it's a bit more complex.

Oyster Tube fares have two different pricing periods - between 0700 and
1900 (i.e. 7am to 7pm) weekdays many fares are slightly more expensive
than at other times (those that involve a journey into/out of/through
zone 1 from/to another zone), though some fares are not differentiated
in this way - see the fares table for information. (Note that Oyster
single tube fares are frozen in price for 2007; also note that these
different periods are not referred to as peak and off-peak).

There's a further element to consider however - Oyster daily price
capping. This is the maximum you'll pay in any one day when using
Oyster PAYG on the Tubes and/or buses. The capping level that will be
applied to you depends upon whether you make enough journeys for it to
kick-in - if so it will then depend on how many zones you travel
through and ***what time of day*** those journeys were made.

Basically there is an off-peak cap which covers all the journeys you
make are after 0930, and a peak cap for all the journeys you make
before 0930. However - and this is the clever bit - the system is smart
enough to charge you separately for your pre-0930 journey(s), plus the
Off-Peak cap, if the total cost of the journeys you make is less than
the Peak cap.

i.e. If you make just one journey before 0930 this doesn't mean that
you've forfeited the opportunity to benefit from the off-peak cap, it
means the pre-0930 journey will be charged as an extra on top of the
off-peak cap.

As long as you touch in and touch out for every journey the system will
always charge the correct amount, and apply the appropriate cap.

That may well be as clear as mud but it's all factually correct,
possibly just explained badly. The fares tables and capping rates can
be found below - note that whilst Oyster PAYG Tube single fares are
frozen in price, from 2 January 2007 the levels for Oyster daily price
capping are going up.

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Oyster PAYG single fares on the Tube/DLR (2006 & prices frozen for
2007)
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick.../tubedlr.shtml

Oyster daily price capping levels (2006)
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...ubedlr-4.shtml

Leaflet detailing 2007 fares including new Oyster daily price capping
levels (PDF format):
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...007.pdf#page=1

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C wrote:

With an Oyster Card does it still follow fares cheaper after 9:30am week
days?

Craig

Yes and no.

On the buses an Oyster single costs £1 before 0930 and 80p afterwards,
with a daily cap of £3 if you just use buses on that day. (Note - from
2 January 2007 the Oyster single will cost £1 whatever the time of the
day, though the daily cap will remain at £3).

On the Tube (include in this the DLR and the few National Rail routes
that accept Oyster PAYG) then it's a bit more complex.

Oyster Tube fares have two different pricing periods - between 0700 and
1900 (i.e. 7am to 7pm) weekdays many fares are slightly more expensive
than at other times (those that involve a journey into/out of/through
zone 1 from/to another zone), though some fares are not differentiated
in this way - see the fares table for information. (Note that Oyster
single tube fares are frozen in price for 2007; also note that these
different periods are not referred to as peak and off-peak).

There's a further element to consider however - Oyster daily price
capping. This is the maximum you'll pay in any one day when using
Oyster PAYG on the Tubes and/or buses. The capping level that will be
applied to you depends upon whether you make enough journeys for it to
kick-in - if so it will then depend on how many zones you travel
through and ***what time of day*** those journeys were made.

Basically there is an off-peak cap which covers all the journeys you
make are after 0930, and a peak cap for all the journeys you make
before 0930. However - and this is the clever bit - the system is smart
enough to charge you separately for your pre-0930 journey(s), plus the
Off-Peak cap, if the total cost of the journeys you make is less than
the Peak cap.

i.e. If you make just one journey before 0930 this doesn't mean that
you've forfeited the opportunity to benefit from the off-peak cap, it
means the pre-0930 journey will be charged as an extra on top of the
off-peak cap.

As long as you touch in and touch out for every journey the system will
always charge the correct amount, and apply the appropriate cap.

That may well be as clear as mud but it's all factually correct,
possibly just explained badly. The fares tables and capping rates can
be found below - note that whilst Oyster PAYG Tube single fares are
frozen in price, from 2 January 2007 the levels for Oyster daily price
capping are going up.

----------
Oyster PAYG single fares on the Tube/DLR (2006 & prices frozen for
2007)
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick.../tubedlr.shtml

Oyster daily price capping levels (2006)
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...ubedlr-4.shtml

Leaflet detailing 2007 fares including new Oyster daily price capping
levels (PDF format):
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...007.pdf#page=1

Sorry you lost me a bit for that....so what your saying is at the moment the
most Im paying for a journey is £3.50 thats going up to £4 from January
2007?

Craig

C wrote:

Sorry you lost me a bit for that....so what your saying is at the moment the
most Im paying for a journey is £3.50 thats going up to £4 from January
2007?

Craig

Yeah I suspected my answer was perhaps less than clear.

In answer to your query above - no! The most you'll pay for a single
journey using Oyster Pay-as-you-go (PAYG) - both this year and next
(the Oyster fares are frozen) - is £3.50 for a journey within zones
1-6.

£4 is the cash fare (i.e. what you'll pay f you're not using Oyster
PAYG) for any journey involving zone 1.

If you do multiple journeys in any one day then if you're using Oyster
PAYG the system doesn't keep on charging you for each individual
journey, instead there is a maximun amount you'll pay for any one day's
worth of travelling. This is known as the daily cap, or Oyster daily
price capping. (Note - for capping to work you have to ensure you touch
in and out when you start/end every journey on the Tube/DLR.)

The faily cap that will apply to you depends on how many journeys you
made during the day, whether you just used buses or used the Tube/DLR
as well/instead, what zones you travelled through on the Tube/DLR and
what times of the day you made your journeys.

Basically if you're day's travelling in London doesn't involve National
Rail, then use an Oyster card. If it does involve National Rail, you're
probably better off with a One Day Travelcard, as Oyster PAYG can't be
used on most National Rail routes.

Perhaps if you're still confused you might outline what your plans are
and then someone will advise you of the best ticketing option.