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Old December 15th 06, 02:26 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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ruth wrote:
This is my first post on this group, and I wonder if someone here
might advise me..
I am a holder of a disabled persons freedom pass. My disability
means I cannot actually use public transport.. This is a miserable
waste really, when all I would ideally require are some travel
vouchers for my carer so he can come and help me.
Anyway, in September I had to leave my carer in Rickmansworth to
find his own way back to derbys, where he lives.. He usually
travels home from edgware. and he is completely unfamiliar in that
area.
I gave him my ticket to use, as I dont use it myself, and He is also
disabled and doesnt have the money to afford the extra fare, so I
gave him the ticket to save him money.


Doesn't have the money for the extra fare? Presumably you mean the
extra he should have paid to get to King's Cross St Pancras from
Rickmansworth instead of from Edgware. That's only 40p or 50p on Oyster
depending on time of day and day of the week. (I assume that if he's
hard up, he will have got an Oyster card to save money on his
twice-monthly trips.)

He got stopped at Kings Cross by some revenue inspector, who took
his details, he just agreed with what the inspector said as he
didnt want to be detained and miss his connecting train to derbys,
for which he had a ticket prepaid. He couldnt have afforded to pay
another trainfare. He did have enough spare change on him to
purchase a ticket but wasnt asked to.
He has subsequently received a court summons,
He will plead guilty, to avoid hassle, but he isnt guilty because I
told him he could use my ticket, and he being from up north didnt
know any different.


.... despite the fact that the Freedom Pass carried your name, and "valid
only with holder's photopass".

He is guilty and will have to pay a fine. If he can't attend court, a
letter explaining the circumstances and a grovelling apology might help.
A solicitor could advise on this if necessary.

If you really think that it's all your fault, you should pay his fine
for him. Your slur on the intelligence of people "up north" is uncalled
for.
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Richard J.
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Old December 26th 06, 04:02 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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This is not a slur on the intelligence of people from up north. I
merely stated that he doesnt know about freedom passes because, being
from up north they dont use them there.
and I did give him the photocard as well actually. he had both.
I gave him these because I think it is a waste of time having a freedom
pass that I cannot use as my disability stops me getting on public
transport. And he is only coming to help me it is doing more good. He
couldnt afford to come and help me on his own, and I have no local
carers or family.
Do not judge us as you do not know our situation, I have insulted no
one here, but get a load of nasty comments from people.
I think its personally disgusting that whilst the government wants to
waste £5000 plus giving me a ticket I cannot use, they would not
prefer to just give a few hundred pounds instead so my carer can get to
me with travel vouchers etc. or provide me with more local help.
but thats the council for you.. I told him that he could use it
because he is also disabled and has my permission. I cannot afford to
pay the fine as I have no income., although Im obviously better off
than he is.
Obviously people who can afford extortionate underground fares wouldnt
understand this.

ruth





If you really think that it's all your fault, you should pay his fine
for him. Your slur on the intelligence of people "up north" is uncalled
for.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


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