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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Ralf Mayer wrote:

3) Tower Hill / Tower Gateway: I remember having changed there from DLR
to Circle or so, different stations close to another, right?


Right. Also close to Fenchurch Street NR station.

4) Bank / Monument: Bank is for Waterloo, Central and Northern, Monument
is Circle and District? How far are they? Different stations really or
one big one connected sub level?


Depends what you mean by 'really'. AIUI, Bank and Monument were initially
separate (Bank on the Central line and Monument on the District), but when
the Northern line came through, its platforms were laid more or less
between the two, connecting them. Here are some pictures:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.b...aps/ltmonu.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.b...aps/ltbank.gif

Basically, you have the Central and W&C at one end, the District/Circle at
the other, and the Northern and DLR in between; changing between two lines
which are at the same location is quite quick, changing between a line at
one end and one in the middle is reasonably quick, and changing between a
line at one end and one at the other takes ages.

And in case you missed them, Hammersmith is like Paddington, and there are
two different Edgware Roads as well!

5) Central line Hainault Branch: How do the trains run there from central
london? Either all the way straight to Epping, or ... to Hainault,
but which way?


To a first approximation, there isn't a loop at all: at Leytonstone,
trains either go to Epping via Woodford, or Woodford via Hainault. The
truth is that there are a few trains, the number varying according to the
time of day, which run right round the loop, from central London to
Newbury Park to Hainault to Woodford to central London.

As of next friday, it's about this simple; at present, there's the extra
complication that no trains at all go from Hainault to Woodford after 2000
(although there are still trains from Leytonstone to Hainault).

What I mean is: How do I reach Chigwell or leave?


Why on earth would you want to go to Chigwell? Absurd.

Probably via Hainault, though.

Does the train loop through Hainault going to Woodford and back to
London?


Occasionally, as i mentioned. Most of the time, it turns round at
Woodford.

Or is Hainault reached from both sides and terminus station?


Hainault is not itself a terminus, if that's what you mean. Except until
next friday, in the evening.

And how do trains go from Hainault, both directions to London or just
one??


Mostly, trains from Hainault go west to Woodford, or south to central
London via Newbury Park; some go west to central London via Woodford.

Unless i have this all horribly wrong.

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"Ralf Mayer" wrote in message
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Well, I did start gathering data and making my own journeyplanner to take
with me on a mobile, and I am able to find quickest routes through most
lines already... but some question to the line setup however remain, I am
certain you will have no difficulties helping me with them:


I'm really not big into parade-raining, and I do apologise if this seems at
all rude, but here goes...

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/

dave

1) Shepherd's Bush: There is a station by that name on Central and on
Hammersmith & City - are that really different stations? Can someone
change there? How far apart are they? And... why the naming?

2) Paddington: Seems to be triple. On H & C as an isolated station, but
with the circle to allow transfers (to where). Then one circle on the
Bakerloo, and another one on the District/Circle section. How is the setup
there, how many different Paddingtons are there and how can one
interchange from one to the other? Do you leave the station / ticket gates
to change?

3) Tower Hill / Tower Gateway: I remember having changed there from DLR to
Circle or so, different stations close to another, right?

4) Bank / Monument: Bank is for Waterloo, Central and Northern, Monument
is Circle and District? How far are they? Different stations really or one
big one connected sub level?

5) Central line Hainault Branch: How do the trains run there from central
london? Either all the way straight to Epping, or ... to Hainault, but
which way? What I mean is: How do I reach Chigwell or leave? Does the
train loop through Hainault going to Woodford and back to London? Or is
Hainault reached from both sides and terminus station? And how do trains
go from Hainault, both directions to London or just one??

Quite a lot of questions for a project that does make little sense in the
first place... but it is a lot of fun learning the network layout, so I
might as well get it correct... Thanks if one wants to help!

Ralf


Btw: I did not yet create routings for the DLR, the Northern or District
line... Their layout, Kensington Olympia, Richmond and Wimbledon are full
of questions too... but one at a time!





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d wrote:
"Ralf Mayer" wrote in message
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Well, I did start gathering data and making my own journeyplanner to take
with me on a mobile, and I am able to find quickest routes through most
lines already... but some question to the line setup however remain, I am
certain you will have no difficulties helping me with them:


I'm really not big into parade-raining, and I do apologise if this seems at
all rude, but here goes...

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/


Facinating, apparently it provides live departures on the central line,
how accurate is it?

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Paul Weaver wrote:
d wrote:
"Ralf Mayer" wrote in message
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Well, I did start gathering data and making my own journeyplanner to take
with me on a mobile, and I am able to find quickest routes through most
lines already... but some question to the line setup however remain, I am
certain you will have no difficulties helping me with them:

I'm really not big into parade-raining, and I do apologise if this seems at
all rude, but here goes...

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/


Facinating, apparently it provides live departures on the central line,
how accurate is it?

The Circle line too, and various others. I use the site regularly and
only noticed the change on Saturday.

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