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solar penguin wrote:
I'm starting to get a theory that some people are just magically lucky when it comes to new hi-tech gadgets. The equipment just always works _perfectly_ for them, while the rest of us have to struggle with all sorts of errors and failures and crashes and bugs and breakdowns. Of course, the magically lucky elite have an unfair advantage over the rest of us -- and they don't even know it. That's why they see no problems in forcing us to use the advanced technology that works for them, even though we would be _much_ better off sticking with older, more reliable technology that we're comfortable with. Oysters are just one example of this. But the problem's everywhere! Based on my experience of living in London, commuting in London using Oyster, and being surrounded by friends and colleagues who do the same, the people for whom Oyster works fine nearly all the time encompasses... err... all of them, while the people who are cursed with errors and failures and crashes and bugs and breakdowns are... two people on Usenet. (the only problem I've had with Oyster was forgetting to renew my season ticket, not touching in at Finsbury Park because you don't need to if you have a season ticket, being stopped by inspectors while changing trains at Green Park and PF-d £20 for using PP without touching in. Which was more my fault than Oyster's anyway...) -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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solar penguin wrote:
Tourists? What the **** have tourists got to do with anything? This thread was about tourists being 'ripped off' by paying full fares on London Transport. And now you're saying the reason that we've got to put up with it is because it might be better for tourist scum who shouldn't even be polluting our country with their presence in the first place! I take it you've never left the country. Call me a stagnant old stick-in-the-mud if you like, but I really do believe TfL and friends should be looking after the interests of people who actually _vote_ for them! I think you should actually try and follow a discussion before posting. E. |
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Earl Purple wrote:
If the tourist lands at Gatwick? I assume you can't buy Oyster Cards at Gatwick. The integration of rail with tube and bus is of course important, although in other countries I've been to the aiport train is certainly not part of the city metro. Once you get to Victoria you can buy your Oyster. E. |
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"tim....." wrote:
"eastender" wrote in message ... Boltar wrote: but people who are here just for a day or 2 and want to tour the city will want 1 day travelcards which Osyer doesn't support. Wrong - pre-pay Oyster caps at a cheaper rate than travelcards. Only if one doesn't want to use NR. For most tourists touring central London this is not an issue. E. |
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![]() Colin Rosenstiel wrote: If you want to throw your money away, it is of course your inalienable right to do so. I don't _want_ to. I ended up having to do it because it seemed like the least worst option. How much _more_ money would I have found myself losing if I'd stuck with that unreliable technology? However, why didn't you go to a ticket office? Because there's no Underground ticket office anywhere near me! But I asked in both the local newsagents that do Oyster, and they both said there was nothing that could be done. I use my Oyster pretty infrequently (about 10 journeys in 2006) and it works fine technically. That's lasted for four times as many journeys as mine did. I'm impressed. What's your secret? |
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I guess I'm part of that lucky elite group too! Living in London, use
my Oyster almost daily, and haven't had any problems at all. I love that I just don't have to worry about buying tickets or queueing at all with auto top-up on it. I don't know of any friends that have had problems either. Are you sure it might not just be you who's in the minority here, and are you sure you haven't just walked through gates even though you got an error beep or anything? |
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![]() Paul Terry wrote: In message .com, Boltar writes Sure , you can use it in prepay mode but you'll pay through the nose if you make more than a few journeys whereas a travelcard is a one off cost. PAYG is capped at or below the rate of the equivalent one-day travel card and is therefore generally the cheaper alternative. Really? Well thats news to me when I used it once for 3 trips and didn't have enough to make a 4th even though I'd had the equivalent value of a travelcard on it. Bug in the system? And what about the maximum fare being deducted if you don't swipe it? That doesn't happen with a travelcard. B2003 |
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