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As others have already explained, the rest of Europe stresses its
long-welded rail within different parameters, appropriate to the
standard weather conditions in the country concerned. Nevertheless, the
UK is not the only country suffering from restrictions due to weather
conditions beyond the expected norm


So which ones are exactly? Spain, France, Germany, Portugal have no
problems at all on their rail systems. So which ones have problems? And
what problems? And is it the heat causing them?
British rail transport has become a joke round the world. And rightly
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So which ones are exactly? Spain, France, Germany, Portugal have no
problems at all on their rail systems. So which ones have problems? And
what problems? And is it the heat causing them?


IIRC, British track is stressed for a maximum of 40 degrees Celsius. Other
European countries stress for 50 degrees Celsius, because their average
temperatures are higher than ours. However, they get more problems in the
winter when they get an unusually cold snap. At least two of the countries
that you mention have imposed speed restrictions recently, due to the
excessive temperatures.

I recommend you to read the thread 'Stressing CWR on hot days' on uk.railway
to get a proper understanding of the problem.

British rail transport has become a joke round the world. And rightly
so.


Much like your contributions (?) to this newsgroup.


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CJG writes
As others have already explained, the rest of Europe stresses its
long-welded rail within different parameters, appropriate to the
standard weather conditions in the country concerned. Nevertheless,
the UK is not the only country suffering from restrictions due to
weather conditions beyond the expected norm


So which ones are exactly? Spain, France, Germany, Portugal have no
problems at all on their rail systems. So which ones have problems? And
what problems? And is it the heat causing them?


SNCF have been reporting quite a few heat-related problems on their
website over the past few days. It was reported in news:uk.railway that
a TGV was derailed on Wednesday due to a buckled rail.

Or do you think just because the UK media doesn't report something it
doesn't happen?

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And also the rest of the world manages to run its public transport with
2inches of snow, storms, rain, sunshine bringing the whole
infrastructure to a halt.


Not true. Try Washington DC with three flakes of snow, or much of
California after ten minutes of rain.

So you tell me what the rest of the world has that Britain doesn't?
Maybe a modern approach with finance used to its full potential?


That may be true. Privatisation has cost the railways an awful lot - the
current SRA payments to TOCS are three or four times amounts that Sir
Bob Reid would have thought beyond his wildest dreams.

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Things haven't changed on the railway. Even in British Rail days,
when temperatures were high, 'blanket' speed restrictions were imposed
so it's not a Network Rail problem of cost cutting. Network Rail
can't win can they. They impose a 'safety measure' to reduce the risk
of an incident just like it's British Rail predecesor and they are
slated! If they didn't impose the 'safety measure' and an incident
occured, they'd be slated for not running a safe railway. Railways
are headline news and easy media target. Get off their backs. You
are hurting a bunch of very loyal railway employees who work damned
hard to provide a service with the set up and constant intervention of
the British Government, they are the one's you should be slating!!!!

Come on everyone stop slating the railways, the roads are worse!

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