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Sad Old Git wrote:
Overheard some drivers talking while waiting for a train @ Golders Grn, It
appears that there will be a strike looming as the underground have refused
to give the staff their payrise. Is this correct?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6247599.stm

Wed 10 Jan 10:32 GMT

Sacked Tube driver is reinstated

The threat of a strike on the Tube has been averted after a driver who
was sacked for passing through a red signal was reinstated.

The Northern Line driver, who said he had followed correct procedure,
was given a 12-month "suspended sentence" by London Underground (LU) on
appeal.

LU said he would return to work under close supervision.

Drivers' union Aslef welcomed the outcome but said the driver should
never have been sacked.

An LU spokesman said: "A decision was made on appeal that, while the
driver was guilty of a misdemeanour, the original dismissal was too
severe.

"As a result it has been reduced to a suspended sentence of 12 months."

The result of a ballot over industrial action had been due to be
announced on Thursday.

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Sad Old Git wrote:
Overheard some drivers talking while waiting for a train @ Golders Grn, It
appears that there will be a strike looming as the underground have refused
to give the staff their payrise. Is this correct?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6247599.stm

Wed 10 Jan 10:32 GMT

Sacked Tube driver is reinstated

The threat of a strike on the Tube has been averted after a driver who
was sacked for passing through a red signal was reinstated.

The Northern Line driver, who said he had followed correct procedure,
was given a 12-month "suspended sentence" by London Underground (LU) on
appeal.

LU said he would return to work under close supervision.

Drivers' union Aslef welcomed the outcome but said the driver should
never have been sacked.

An LU spokesman said: "A decision was made on appeal that, while the
driver was guilty of a misdemeanour, the original dismissal was too
severe.

"As a result it has been reduced to a suspended sentence of 12 months."

The result of a ballot over industrial action had been due to be
announced on Thursday.


Lets hope that he doesn't run anymore red lights then or there will be
another strike or worse a crash and dead passengers and a dead driver
but who cares about the driver.

Kevin

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Kev wrote:

Lets hope that he doesn't run anymore red lights then or there will be
another strike or worse a crash and dead passengers and a dead driver
but who cares about the driver.


You are an ignorant tosser. I've checked out some of your other posts
which confirm this. One for the Google Groups Killfile For FireFox.

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Kev wrote:

Lets hope that he doesn't run anymore red lights then or there will be
another strike or worse a crash and dead passengers and a dead driver
but who cares about the driver.


You are an ignorant tosser. I've checked out some of your other posts
which confirm this. One for the Google Groups Killfile For FireFox.


Then I suggest that the you and the driver are an ignorant tosser. He
was reprieved a sacking and got a suspended sentence. The choice is
his. If he doesn't run a red light he will be ok. If he does run a red
light we can keep our fingers crossed that he doesn't cause a crash and
kill passengers. Why does whether the driver does or doesn't do his job
correctly make me ignorant.
I would suggest that the driver has more to lose in a crash since he
would be at the front. Given that the drivers that strike don't give a
toss about the passengers why should the passengers give a toss about
the drivers.

Kevin

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In article .com,
Kev wrote:
Then I suggest that the you and the driver are an ignorant tosser. He
was reprieved a sacking and got a suspended sentence. The choice is
his. If he doesn't run a red light he will be ok.


"Running a red light" to me implies a deliberate act; he knew the light
was red and decided to keep going anyway.

I very much doubt that that is the case: train drivers may accidentally
go past a red light, but I rather suspect that the last time a driver
may have deliberatly done so was in 1975 (and even then, it's hard to be
sure it was deliberate - he died, of course).

Why does whether the driver does or doesn't do his job
correctly make me ignorant.


Perfect, are we?

I would suggest that the driver has more to lose in a crash since he
would be at the front. Given that the drivers that strike don't give a
toss about the passengers why should the passengers give a toss about
the drivers.


Because a sense of justice means that the rules agreed between the
managment and the workers should be followed.

--
Shenanigans! Shenanigans! Best of 3!
-- Flash


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Mike Bristow wrote:

In article .com,
Kev wrote:
Then I suggest that the you and the driver are an ignorant tosser. He
was reprieved a sacking and got a suspended sentence. The choice is
his. If he doesn't run a red light he will be ok.


"Running a red light" to me implies a deliberate act; he knew the light
was red and decided to keep going anyway.

I very much doubt that that is the case: train drivers may accidentally
go past a red light, but I rather suspect that the last time a driver
may have deliberatly done so was in 1975 (and even then, it's hard to be
sure it was deliberate - he died, of course).

Why does whether the driver does or doesn't do his job
correctly make me ignorant.


Perfect, are we?

I would suggest that the driver has more to lose in a crash since he
would be at the front. Given that the drivers that strike don't give a
toss about the passengers why should the passengers give a toss about
the drivers.


Because a sense of justice means that the rules agreed between the
managment and the workers should be followed.

--
Shenanigans! Shenanigans! Best of 3!
-- Flash


Then maybe somebody needs to ask the question why so many drivers go
past red lights accidentally? I still don't see why I should feel
concerned for a driver who may pass another red signal and therefore
invoke a suspended sentence when drivers don't give a toss about
passengers when they go on strike. This driver has been given a second
chance. If it was me I don't think that I would complain.
I would say that makes drivers ignorant *******.

Kevin

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"Kev" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mike Bristow wrote:

In article .com,
Kev wrote:
Then I suggest that the you and the driver are an ignorant tosser. He
was reprieved a sacking and got a suspended sentence. The choice is
his. If he doesn't run a red light he will be ok.


"Running a red light" to me implies a deliberate act; he knew the light
was red and decided to keep going anyway.

I very much doubt that that is the case: train drivers may accidentally
go past a red light, but I rather suspect that the last time a driver
may have deliberatly done so was in 1975 (and even then, it's hard to be
sure it was deliberate - he died, of course).

Why does whether the driver does or doesn't do his job
correctly make me ignorant.


Perfect, are we?

I would suggest that the driver has more to lose in a crash since he
would be at the front. Given that the drivers that strike don't give a
toss about the passengers why should the passengers give a toss about
the drivers.


Because a sense of justice means that the rules agreed between the
managment and the workers should be followed.

--
Shenanigans! Shenanigans! Best of 3!
-- Flash


Then maybe somebody needs to ask the question why so many drivers go
past red lights accidentally? I still don't see why I should feel
concerned for a driver who may pass another red signal and therefore
invoke a suspended sentence when drivers don't give a toss about
passengers when they go on strike. This driver has been given a second
chance. If it was me I don't think that I would complain.
I would say that makes drivers ignorant *******.

Kevin


What *ALL* of them??
Shut up you silly sod, My Father in Law has been a driver for 34 years and
does NOT deliberatly go through red lights!
PILLOCK!


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